The current patch is an insult to the whole pvp community

I do play the game and personally I think it did more harm than good (if I exclude the fact that I can now play D2 on a large monitor in 4k with enhanced graphics).
It is slowly butchering the things that made D2 special.

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don’t be obtuse, look at the original post. there are many different people complaining about the change.

anyone who thinks 2.4 fhr is healthy for pvp does not pvp. if you don’t care about pvp, then go away? this change, before or after, has no impact on you.

the crazies who justify blizzard’s action with this specifically with “the meta changes!!” are really lacking in critical thinking skills. changing how good a skill is changes the meta. removing not 1 but 2 entire pvp mechanics from the game is not changing the meta, it’s just ruining the scene that uses those mechanics. FHR works in PVM, why doesn’t it work in PVP?

i see frozenarrow talking about stuff but i dont think he understands how the mechanics of the game works because none of what he said reflects what actually happens ingame lol

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Well said. Agreed on everything.

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so yall want wsg back right is that what this is all about? what is the problem i thought they fixed it so you cant get stun locked by mindblast anymore?

I just woke up today after a dream, i dreamed that we had fhr back.

I am now very sad. Going back to sleep, so i can dream my self back to the game where i loved it the most.

RIP d2r

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yall know you can just play lod still right?

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Thats the whole problem lol, we want stuns to be a thing in the game : no stunlock = bad pvp, for all the reason exposed in this topic

And no we dont ask about wsg being implemented back. It was bad to remove it, but i dont think Blizzard will ever go back on that so w/e. We just want them to remove this trash anti stun mechanic they implemented in 2.4, and that we never wanted

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Bruh. I have no idea what to respond on that stupid comment lol. Are you seriously saying that as a serious reply? lmao

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Woah so many replies how come none of the community moderators seem to see this. PvP community just wants to be heard! Stop treating us like the black sheep of the family!

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+1
Where the bloo be?

Even aside from the pve haters, this post has gotten over a hundred replies. All of us know at least a few people who gave up on pvp after the FHR change, as well…

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Maybe most of them doesnt even know fhr mechanics since it didnt had impact in PvM,
it Just look like a useless stat, just casual vs hardcore

And nope, its not like that that the immunity works, 0 or 2000 fhr basicly the same
i mean, have u tried ? Cause we organize 2-3 tours weekly + worlds clan wars
We kinda try everything for month and keep losing players so well maybe stop guessing and listen to the ppl that theorycraft and practice

thanks

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ofcourse we could, but

how bad must be a rework if hes even worse than the original version…

but more important, why would u not support something that will make gaming experience of other beter without making it worse for you? are you that selfish?

i mean lets be real here plz, you want have a remake of the remake, if you want your fav game to die twice maybe u are on the good path

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stuns were an issue after wsg was removed (note the issue being a removal of a mechanic). their solution was to implement “diminishing returns on fhr” but didn’t really state what it should do. but nothing about it is diminishing right now. you get stunned once and then you are immune to stuns for a brief duration, so any stun orientated characters are now borderline useless. this has removed all stun champs from being meta in pvp, and now its just whoever can teleport the most. there is no longer counter play to teleport. the crazies will say “just ban teleport from pvp!” like removing yet another part of the game from pvp is somehow a good thing.

take your favorite moba game. now remove every cc in the game. what do you think will happen? hyper mobility meta. thats what is currently is in d2r pvp.

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basically this. Take lol or wow pvp and remove stun and cc in general. The game become much more stupid and boring.

Stunlock (and assassin) were too strong in 2.3, thats a fact. But we will take that any day over no stunlock at all, which is just stupid or silly.

Funnily enough, real diminush return balanced proprely could have been a good answer to the problems in 2.3, but seems like blizz devs dont know anymore the sens of that world, which is kinda weird but eh…

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Back to old fhr 2.3 or lod thank
Best regard from french

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Bring back PvP, bring back Fhr and stun !

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And FBR/shield block animation as well

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i dont think that one will ever be possible sadly, because it concerns pvm as well :/. Hit recovery however, only concerns pvp and doesnt impact pvm whatsoever

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Fhr is worse problem tho… even tho as a barb player indeed block animation is annoying…

Up!

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vouch
also, bring back valk08 :yum:

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