I’m not talking about Just D2 my dude. I’m talking about alienating their players. Once you piss people off, they don’t come back and buy your games in the future.
D2R, killing off the old guard.
D Immortal, cashshop hell.
Wow trying to turn it into a bad FF14 because they think FF14 is “in” now.
Overwatch 2, Overwatch 1, but worse in every way and pissing off literally 1/6th of the player base.
Blizzard obviously has no idea what they are doing anymore… and it’s showing in their earnings. This is going to continue getting worse unless they pull out a damn miracle.
But they seem to be a lot of people buying D2R and I will be buying their future products too if they keep it up.
Forgot to mention, a global pandemic happened to. It makes since their revenue wouldn’t be same as last year or two but they are still doing great.
You made it sound like they are not doing as great because of D2R. Which is irrelevant and false narrative. It’s like saying countries that got damaged from COVID now will have a totally related thing, say education, worse now somehow!
D Immortal made way more than D2 EVER did, not even in a million year. It is a HUGE success.
OW1 hasn’t had content in years, too early to tell what will happen with OW2. Also how is OW pissing off 1/6th of the player base?
A lot of people are enjoying the 5v5 and I am loving it personally.
I don’t know much about WoW or care about it, but if it works it works.
And more importantly, D2R:
Which any sane company would. Those minority 5% are a huge Blizzard haters (as you demonstrated) and will NOT support the company or invest in any other product, they also make out the minority of purchases even in D2R - casuals are where it is at!
It’s actually a very smart and a common sense business decision to change D2R and make it more casual-friendly. For the record, this game and the whole genre has always been “casual”. Tedious no-skill robotic grinding does not make it challenging, it just makes it less available to a lot of potential customers - pure bad design.
Immortal has cost Blizzard more long term customers than it will ever earn them.
The game is already mostly dead with people crying for server mergers. Just another example of Blizzard having no long term plan. How many of the people pissed at Immortal won’t buy another Blizzard game in the future? Probably a lot.
A few thousand people putting in absurd amount of money into a mobile cash grab might be great in the short term… but that’s not going to be a player base that’s going to play your other titles…
Living rent-free. Having you on ignore yet you almost always writing full-on rage posts whoever you see me like the defeated purist that you are. Defeat is humiliating and tough I know that, so I gave you a pity read AND a respond this one time. That’s just how kind I am.
Happy to be responsible for some changes in D2R and more in the future, it’s tough for some people to accept but no success is without haters!
Immortal model was design to squeeze as much money as possible. It’s good business but that doesn’t mean it’s a good game. It doesn’t have longevity instead it squeezes money as fast as possible and have people move on to the next game they sell you. It makes business sense but it’s not a good trend for gamers.
I agree with you don’t get me wrong, but he was talking fiscal. Trying to say because of changes in D2R and them listening to us, Blizzard is losing lots of money ( ). But in terms of D2R I believe they’re doing good job so far although needs more changes and more often.
If you ignored me so hard, you wouldn’t be responding to me ever. But you can’t help yourself. You see my comments and you get so worked up that you have to respond, despite ‘ignoring me’. Also, rent-free is the most zoomer trash (and most obvious projection lul) I’ve ever heard, meaning your opinions have even less value than they did before.
If you think that’s the player base you were blind. I interacted with more unique players than that myself, in hardcore, on a nearly daily basis in LOD…in 2020…
I could come to terms with this rarity, but it’s still a fundamental change that they said they weren’t going to do.
Actually, the biggest removal of class identity was Enigma. Let’s make sure that gets its proper credit. Although the 2 you mentioned are also offenders…
But there are less people like minded to your stance than there are to Jhaerik’s, since Blizzard is LOSING increased interest, measurable by both stock value as well as by titles sold now, versus titles sold in the past. Their metrics for growth and success (and for that matter, staying out of the news as a company who doesn’t abuse their employees) today as a company as a whole, are all worse than they used to be. This is not speculation, it’s fact. Every measurable metric says you’re arguing in favor of the minority.
You keep referring to the old player base as the minority, but I have to remind you that this is a 20 year old game, and I have met in my entire time playing D2R, all of maybe a dozen or 2 people whom have NEVER played. Literally almost every single person I encounter, has played the original D2. You thinking the old players are the minority is a GROSS misrepresentation of what reality actually is. If I could state that heavier I would. I mean, it’s so gross, it’s borderline sick.
They be dead soon anyway. Some ppl are stuck in the past but the majority of ppl want something new. With d2r they got the chance to improve the old game. Some ppl do rly love these changes.
The purists still got d2 classic.
Immortal is their first diablo game which is on mobile. U do realize that more than 50% of its playerbase are new to the franchise according to blizzard. They didnt lose customers but infact introduced new ppls to the franchise. If something thats great. Is it a game for everyone? No, not everyone loves mobile games. They hit a new market and its gaining them profit.
Me being one of the “Purists” you hate so dearly - left as soon as 2.4 patch notes hit. Just checking forum every now and again.
You know, I think I am now. They sold me D3 which was okayish on the beginning and then turned it into trash it is today (subjectively speaking), then it was D2:RE where they promised one thing delivered another, then DI (we talking here only about Diablo franchise, others go similarly “stellar” though). With all that I know I wont be getting D4 even if it will be best game of all time, simply because even if thats the case, they will mess it up in 6 months top.
Of course not, it is a multimillion dollar company not my seek relative. If they want my money they need to deliver product/service I am interested in.
You are not the only profitable player base though, From prove it. Truth is, 99% of new games cater to you, why do you need to come to the remaining 1% and change them?
And yet you complain that you are unable to compete against streamers. Not sure what you think casual is, but grinding 18 hours a day =/= casual.
I never ever ever ever ever complained about that. I suggested changes to the game.
I have never even been higher than level 97 on a character and I don’t even intend to, and at that time I was playing only one Javazon and had lots free time more than a decade ago. I think it’s stupid beyond level 94 (or 95?).
I prefer to start new characters and builds. Of course if they implement changes and make the grinding realistic then yes, I might go for it.
Nope. Was never promised and delivered another thing. This was a make-believe by purists and reality shattered that delusion. It launched with changes and they were discussing ploot even before change, sounds 1:1 identical copy to?
The rest of your post is why it is a smart business decision to listen to us, and why they never listened to you. D2 fans were always bad mouthing Blizzard and D3 (even though it literally dwarfed all of D2 LTD sales) and Blizzard knows this very well. They knew they would never get your support or you buying their games, simply because you are stuck in time. You really thought they were doing this for you as a 1:1 copy? They are not stupid.
Blizzard also don’t want you or care about you, they turned their backs on you long time ago. By the way, I really am not saying this to be mean as it is nothing personal and I have absolutely nothing against you personally.
That is entirely false, and I’ve pasted the link to the article where the Dev’s actually stated that their ENTIRE intention was to keep this as close to the original as possible, and if they WERE to make any changes, you would be able to OPT out of them. That was what we were told at presale. Arguing this again makes you look like a total toolbag. I’ve sent this to you before. You just mental-gymnastics your way passed that every time. You’re just being ignorant on purpose.
Whatever you posted, I am sure there are many sources tell otherwise. It clearly launched with changes and they were discussing ploot and they said multiple times that they will focus on stability first. Come on let’s exercise common sense.
This is just wrong too. Everything you say is wrong. How can you be this wrong every god damned day? It’s like you make it your objective to be as WRONG as possible, ALL the time.
Also, not a purist. I love change. I’ve advocated FOR change. Just not these. These are broken. Anybody without a mental insufficiency can see that.
You mean as wrong as saying this was promised to be an identical copy although many interviews say otherwise, released with changes already, and had ploot discussed even before release?
Or giving a wrong excerpt of EULA that is supposed to proof multi-clienting in D2R is okay, although it has security check?
Yet you play d2 resurrected. Which is d2 Lord of destruction. Which is by definition a change. I am all in for change. The only thing I do t like this season is that the sunder charms should be available before hell.
Classic gameplay—the same Diablo II you know and love, preserved.
The same, preserved - where is it now? This is D2 RE page not OG.
Fair enough, like mentioned I only visit this forum once in a while, lets say that by you i meant casuals as a whole.
First of all sales thing - of course it did, I think right now every single game dwarves D2 sales, for few reasons. Back then maybe 10(?)% of society played video games, right now it is what 70(?)%. Pricing and availability of games also changed, you literally just click and have a game, no more running through the stores in hope that you get a copy. Piracy also is not so widespread anymore.
Bolded - Thats a bit shortsighted I would say. You see I bought D2 because Blizzard made it, same goes for WC3, SC2, D3. Then I got D2 RE despite the fact that Blizzard made it. Now I wont be getting D4 because Blizzard made it. So as you can see they did have me buying their games for a while. See Blizzard transitioned from quality sign, into IP holder. Now it is just me and maybe few more, but with time numbers grow. You yourself are not happy with the game and want more changes, what if they dont implement them, and the same in their next game and next and so on, how long will you blindly buy their titles? It is not easy to get good reputation with customers, it is even harder if you wasted it once.
Oh I am not taking it personally it would be delusional to think that Blizzard care about me (or for anyone else for that matter).
This again…?
Preserved does not mean 1:1 copy. It is preserved, are you trying to tell us this is not D2’s gameplay? That this is not the same D2 we know? Come on dude!! By that logic every patch that came for D2 (and the expansion LoD) was not preserved and same change. This applies to 90% of remakes.
Even when you compare D2 to games of its time, its sales don’t shine. When you compare D3 to games of its time, and even multi-platform games? Yeah… Blizzard is now way more successful there is no denying that.
I would still be happy and play it, even if I don’t get changes I want or we get different changes. This is what live-service game is all about. Of course when I get bored and tired I will quit, and I won’t be spamming the forums saying “I quit!”.
