Hi. So, after a lot of reading and seeing videos i decided to make a hork barb.
He has 400%mf now.
I know farming diablo 2 can take many hours before a decent item drops. But i made now maaaany Travincals, cows, Terror Zones, pindle, eldrich and shenk runs. And nothing.
What i’m doing wrong ?
define “many” :)))))
also, i can’t believe you actually found “nothing”.
don’t look only for runes or uniques, because even blue items can make you rich.
for example, if you find a blue claw with 3 to traps+3 to lightning sentry + attack speed you can sell it for a lot.
also, you will probably find a lot of gems, so cube 3 perfect gems + 1 grand charm (found in a high level area ) and re-roll until you get one with good mods like +1 to skills+life or max damage+attack rating+life/rez. or even small charms of vita+other good mod…
hell, you can even gather 60 Ral runes and sell them for a couple of IST runes
Gems yes-many, 1 bad titans, yellow rings und amu but nothing really worthy
High lvl area charms ?
I still remember baal GC’s should be used but dropped none. Yeaaaaaaars ago.
I have lot of low runes but who need for example 40 rals ??
And about charm Craft, i dont do that anymore. For example, i have a high WC skiller, no ones needs. Last time i played the Game ( many years ago ) even they were expensive.
but you are right, i never looked for blue stuff, because uniques and rws…
When i watch videos no one cares about blue stuff.
And it would take ages to unident everything. Thats not really fast mf runs
Btw, runes drop not that much, sometimes ith, amn , lum …
oh and btw, i mean days, like mentioned in first post , not non stop, but a few hours/day
In the past (years) my ±300mf sorc with Andi/mephi runs found more than my 400%mf barb. Should i add even more Mf ?
Edit:#
Or is the “Problem” that i only have 52% Skill Chance ?
52% is very low. Mine has got 70%. The trick is to put points into find item until the next point wouldn’t increase the percentage, put the rest of the points into find potion synergy then. Every hard point gives you 1% more chance for find item.
52 skill chance on Find item is fine and you should never sacrifice kill speed in order to get more magic find, benefits of more MF fall off really hard after ~200 MF.
regarding the 40 RALs, they are in high demand because they are used for crafting, same thing with P Amethysts, ORTs and THULs
as an example 
having a charm from Baal is the perfect situation but you can still use charms that drop from Pindle or Eldritch.
regarding your warcry skiller, somebody will eventually need it, just post on the forums here on the Trade section. Trading in game can be difficult sometimes but don’t give up, gathering ISTs and GULs and VEXs will eventually make you enough to build your char.
funny story: about 15 years ago when i was in college i used to play on bnet with a friend, and he bet me that he could make a Chains of Honor by only picking up white, blue and yellow items, jewels, gems and low level runes (Ist and below) and then craft or trade for what he needed. And the mofo actually did it
moral of the story: you need to trade
OK. One says 52 is not enough. Someone says 52 is enough
Btw i noticed that too about Find item skill too.
Not every skill increased skill .
.Btw i noticed that too about Find item skill too.
Not every skill increased skill chance.
I did not create a new barb for it.
I use my 91 barb. I had 9 points to spare and with + skills its lvl 20.
Wanted to put the rest points till 96-97 in find skill chance. Dont know if i play further because missing endurance. I has a few 99 in the past but not this time .
So question now. 1 skillpoint in find item and rest in find potion ?
Btw thats non ladder example and i tried to trade the high life wc skiller…no one joined the game.
I made a pack with other wc skillers and got a vex.
Tried long time to trade the charm alone.
You’re right about utilizing the drops but find item has got little to do with magic find. No drop chance in p1 is 70% and barb kills slower in higher player count. So you kill a nonunique monster then there is 70% chance he drops nothing white, yellow or whatever. Find item gives you the chance for a second drop disregarding of no drop chance all together. You should maximize this otherwise time is wasted for no reason. DPS doesn’t suffer at all, you can go all damage gear. Example:
trav uniques drop 3 items
After 1000 runs with 52%: 10000.523 = 1560 items
After 1000 runs with 70%: 10000.703= 2100 items
Item can be anything, white, rune, rare, unique or whatever.
About CoH, worst armor for any class compared to enigma or skin of vipermagi.
I don’t know the rest of your gear but at your level, it would be:
max mastery
max ww
max bo
1 point wonders then
max find potion
rest into find item
Try to level up your barb. Your hit chance rises and you get more efficient at trav.
Also, avoid any source of cold damage on gear which could shatter corpses. It means no raven frost either. Utilize trang oul’s belt or a cham rune.
Look at his gear, that’s a budget GF barb who can kill anything in the game (just change your boots to upped goblins against ubers or dia clone). The nonbudget version is with enigma and 2x grief pb.
the point of the CoH story is that you can get a BER rune by just picking up and trading common stuff, you don’t need to wait until the RNG gods bless you with a direct BER drop.
also, the OPs problem is not making a build, his problem is identifying items of value and trading them in order to get wealth. by just giving him a build you are not helping him at all.
I told you in the previous post, you were right about utilizing drops. You were wrong on 52% find item chance being good enough or affecting drops of white items/runes.
I am helping not to waste time after your initial post because you’ll get your ber one way or another but with less drops, it’ll take significantly more time to achieve the same.
Btw, I didn’t have to trade for Ber at all, I found them myself at trav, terror zones and chaos sanctuary with that barb.
@Groot these guys both make good arguments, but I’m going to side with CM on the 70% item find and with takillya on the ‘‘more mf has diminishing returns’’. (it’s true)
yes many people buy low runes in bulk for high prices. 10 hel on traderie goes for 1 ist.
Also COH is good for ubers if you don’t want to use treachery to prebuff, it works fine, just too expensive for what it is.
Btw the most valuable in game items are blue, like javelins with +6/40 ias, or 5bo helms with 2 sockets, fools mod eth CB/CS swords, jeweller’s plate of the whale, etc
Also RNG is what it says it is, random. I had a dry spell of 2-3 weeks, of no gg drops, and then in one day it happens that I drop 2hr’s and an arachs. Just as an example.
Thanks for all the help.
So, 52% chance is not enough. I could reset my barb and put less points into Find item and more into find potion. I did see that, 2 skills into find item for 1 % more.
Dont really want to make a new barb just for mf runs. Just change normal gear for baal/diablo runs and when i’m in the mood change gear for mf runs.
So, my barb has nearly 400%mf. Would +90% mf help or not ?
All in all 490%
Thx
if the +90% extra MF slows down your killing speed significantly it’s bad.
If you feel no difference in your killing speed then it’s good
not really. i would change gore for WT and 1 Max GC dmg/Arr/life for Gheeds
But i know even when i reset my barb to put more points into Find potion instead of finding item , i will not rech even 60%.
Edit : Well, i make a new barb. otherwise no sense
You can get much higher chance to find item (bases and runes) by utilizing 2x heart carver(+8) on switch or the budget version 2x +3 bo sticks (+6) shopped at mallah.
have 2 alibabas with ist runes for find item
Heart carvers, which are very cheap, are good for boosting the find item skill as CM said,
you could try a heart carver + isted alibaba in offhand. It’s how I roll when I use baba for mf
If you get a grief it will show you frenzy (if ur frenzy) doesn’t need all it’s synergies maxed.
I’m at 87 and max frenzy bo double swing basically in that order. I always go for BO as soon as I get into the 30s. Plan on just 10 blade mastery as I haven’t had trouble with anything in the game if I’m in all kill gear. 1 pt berserk may have 3 points into nat resist. Still no torch so have to carry resist charms. I have 5 points to find item and 1 to potion. With bo sticks on switch +5 and either ik helm(mf kit) or arreats I can get find item up to 50%. I was running this ladder before grief with a max of 42 find item and was finding plenty of tradeables and caster items. Still havent found a sunder… Only 2 skillers, but on one of my last games of the night last month found my first HR a Gul that I horked off a white monster in the pit. On the first level not terrorized no less.
My runs mostly go: trav, shenk/ed, a5 vendors for 3 bo stick and 2 20 gloves, pindle, a5 vendors again, Chaos, if I’m craving for mid runes to cube up run Tower + racks and poppables that get in my path, Andy sometimes again poppables and boss packs on way to lvl4, and finish in the pit. Save exit in pit. NG. I try to hit all the easy mf targets before any randoms join in and steal my drop chance. Also if I’m really in need of craft mats to sell or craft (I only craft nl) and bases I will run cows in as many players in the game as I can but I go the opposite way that the pack does. Sometimes get a single or 2 who see I’m a barb and want to hang around for free BO. Not being a ww barb anymore is great as I can just leap into a pile of cows and be right on top of a drop as soon as it drops and leap back out to safety.
Found my FIRST LO Rune. Never found one. Not after X Years of d2 Gaming
And that with my new Hork Barb
Nice I have a 5os PB if you need.