Pezradar on reddit: ladder ETA end of month

For some reason, this makes me think Blizzard would get into the Gacha craze and give us cosmetic anime girls to use as characters.

there using woke antifa animations now and rainbows and unicorns

I wonder if the “double-level enchant when casting it on yourself” bug will be fixed before or after ladder drops

Finally one step closer to fight against the evil. Prepare yourself Boys and Girls!

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and you could not fight against evil since launch???

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Hehe ofc i did, but waiting for ladder after I heard about the PTR

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you wanted a fresh start? new economy? everyone starting at level 1 together? I am pretty sure all those existed at D2R launch.

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Dude just wants to keep thinking he gets to decide what others consider ladder. Give it a rest. No ladder players think this is the second ladder. (Maybe 1% before you find “one” that does)

Yes, but I am more fan of playing ladder. That’s why I’m waiting for it, nothing wrong with Non Ladder. But everyone have different tastes, some like Non Ladder better and opposite. Now every server is “dead” cause many of us is waiting for the 2.4 PTR to put on a table.

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How was launch of D2R functionally different than ladder except for the leaderboard?

Identical to ladder. everyone started fresh.

Identical to ladder, the trade economy was brand new.

Just like ladder in D2:LoD, the “old” ladder runewords were available to the players. If you wanted to make grief, insight, infinity, spirit, etc…, you could.

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You just won’t stop. No one is in agreement with you. You can’t tell someone they experienced something they didn’t feel they experienced. There has not been a ladder yet. Why are you trying so hard to convince us there has?

The one key thing that might have helped (still wouldn’t have been a ladder) is making it clear ladder was many months out. I know I wasn’t alone in not playing as hard because ladder was coming shortly after launch. It’s not the feel of a ladder if you are waiting for ladder. Not sure how you don’t get that

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You really don’t need to argue semantics when someone was simply expressing their excitement over ladder. You can have your own personal definition of the word if you, for some reason, want to. But leave others out of it.

My point is simple. We had a de facto ladder at D2R launch. Going forward in non-ladder, this will never happen again as non-ladder will be asynchronous in terms of all of us leveling up and the trade economy being established.

Being happy for ladder is fine. I just can not fathom the argument that D2R launch and ladder were fundamentally different since each has a fresh start, brand new economy, and even access to the old-ladder runewords.

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This guy has been arguing with me over many definitions and barely has a grasp on the English language. Why he is so set on making arguments to tell people they had ladder when they didn’t I have no idea

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No we didn’t. You keep thinking if you say it enough people will buy in. You can’t re write history. No one at launch played thinking this is their first ladder. A lot of people played more causally saving time for actual ladder. No matter how many times you say that it won’t change. Just stop

I realize you can’t understand. But that’s a you issue. Not an everyone else issue. Do you realize how dense you have to be to just think everyone else is lying about their experience? People are literally telling you they didn’t experience ladder and you have the nerve to tell them their experience is a lie. Who do you think you are?

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With all the game changes being introduced in patch 2.4 and the new ladder runewords, D2R launch was far more similar to expansion ladder than the upcoming ladder will be.

The main draw for most average folk to ladder, is the reset and level playing field which gives a reason to start over and make those drops feel great again. D2R already launched in that state, and thus having a ladder at the launch of D2R was always a dumb idea, as it would have split the playerbase at launch rather than later, especially with no major distinction outside of monsters with more hp and a leaderboard. Launching Ladder months post launch makes more sense to drive community engagement. Most average folks on OG played ladder because of the illusion of choice between playing the actual full game, vs playing a demo entry version of the game (since a vast itemization was gated in ladders between runewords, uniques, and cube recipes).

However, it is time for ladder. As much as I hate to admit, Ladder is influential for the longevity of the game to non-pvpers for the reset, at least for the online portion of the community. We are closing in on the six month mark for D2R, which is currently the OG standard for them. Be excited, it is within grasp!

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This is trying to rewrite what happened. Just be honest. It’s fine to be happy it’s coming and it’s fine to be content with how it went down. Ladder was not delayed because they didn’t want a ladder near launch. That’s just not reality. There were A LOT of people that didn’t play as hard because they thought ladder was on the very near horizon. Just because ladder didn’t happen shortly after doesn’t mean behaviors and attitudes were the same. Without a doubt people would have played differently at launch if they knew ladder was 6 months out. For me and I’m sure many others nothing about launch felt like ladder. It’s fine if it did for you but don’t try and tell me what I experienced. I was there. It’s quite insulting to tell me I don’t remember what I played a mere 6 months ago. Take a step back and realize how ridiculous that notion is.

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They better give at least two weeks so people can schedule with their jobs. Which would mean they have to announce… TODAY.

They said a while ago they would give at least two weeks notice…