Cause blizzards word is worth anything lol
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I highly doubt it will be a two weeks notice. I think it will be a week at most. The fact that Pez stated ETA was for end of month gives us the estimate time period. Itâs always a gamble to take time off for a launch of anything, as I experienced with putting in my own vacation to coincide with the original launch date of Endwalker before it was post-poned a month or so before original launch date.
No. I didnât rewrite anything. Actually, before launch even happened, I personally felt and posted in forums I felt it was dumb to have ladder at launch as there would be no real purpose to it besides locked itemization and illusion of choice between entry demo mode and full game mode. If anyone thought ladder was happening within a month or two post-launch with the server issues we had, I want whatever they were smoking. After the server crashed hard continuously days in a row, should have been a huge red warning sign that ladder wasnât firing up anytime soon. I feel a lot of people that had been extremely vocal pre-launch on the old forums, thought ladder would be out within a month and didnât bother playing at launch, because there would be no point. Then are now mad because they missed a lot of play time that could have been spent building up their âtrue end gameâ pvp characters, or they missed vast opportunities to make some irl cash selling gear because they neglected non ladder at launch.
While I am being a bit sarcastic with my last couple of points, at the end of the day, we did primarily have a ladder reset at launch, whether intended or not, and people that missed out on that, have only themselves to blame for waiting.
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You are just proving my point in my old thread âwhy are people blaming players â. Blizzard dropped the ball and yet morons like you blame the players. I gave you the chance to think about how ridiculous it is for you to tell others what their experience was. Instead you not only double down and still tell them what it was you blame them too. You are 100% trying to rewrite history in your lens because you arenât a ladder only player so you rationalize this insanity. There are lots of factors in ladder. End of the day no ladder only players felt they were playing ladder. Do you really think we did? If so, what else can you tell me I experienced that I didnt?
Well itâs just unfortunate because they actually promised to give at least two weeks notice around launch time when ladder was to start. Itâs actually kind of important to some people so sucks they would just âforgetâ about this.
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No. Blizzard bonked release. Game wasnât ready for retail. Still glad personally that they did, because I had tons of fun with launch, as I had posted previously. Frustrating at times, yes, but still fun. Blizzard is fully at fault for releasing a game riddled with bugs, crashes, and server issues that could have been accounted for (not so much for the unaccounted for server issues). However, players have to assume some fault in conceptions and how they approached the game. If they thought Blizzard would risk another PR nightmare by releasing ladder with all the issues, then yes, they must accept responsibility for the reality that they lost playtime because of their own stubbornness to not play until ladder was released; whether they are a legit player or rmter.
What is ladder?
A reset of the game economy and reason for players to start fresh from nothing while experiencing that feeling of freshness and drop experiences with an entire community. Check, D2R had that at launch. OG D2 characters did not transfer, everyone started from the same checkpoint.
Gated Items: D2R ungated the OGs ladder only content from the get-go, presumably because ladder would not be at launch, as stated beforehands. Thus, all OGs ladder only content was available from the get-go in D2R.
Stronger Monsters: More health and faster AI on ladder vs non-ladder. D2R lacked the âtougherâ mode at launch with no ladder. Thus understandable while some of the more challenge core oriented folk wanted to wait, but could have still played non ladder to build their pvp toons while waiting, especially when the server issues necessitated a greater delay than was intended.
Leaderboards: D2R also lacked this, but letâs be honest, how many D2 players are really in ladder for the leaderboards?
Now maybe you personally are a super challenge core fellow that always ranked top percentiles in OG ladders. In that case, unstandable why you are mad that ladder was not at launch. You gotta prove yer mettle to the D2 gaming community to strut your stuff, and for that, I am sorry. I am also sorry for the sarcastic jab (or am I really? Or am I just drunk? Iâll leave it to you).
No, we have not been in some official ladder. However, for most players, this was a pre-season that fits most of the essentials for seasonal play. If anyone is as hardcore as they say that they are for D2 ladder resets, then they will be there for the official launch of D2R ladder, unless they are too hung up on 1.14d and refuse to play with balance changes.
That was almost 6 months ago though. I assume that since the ladder launch timetable had to change, that this might change as well in favor of getting ladder out faster.
Iâll give you some context to the anger. I bought game for ladder. Anytime Feb 2022 or sooner I would have been able to play a serious ladder. Now itâs casual at best. Micro and others blamed me for not returning prior to launch because I should have expected a 6 month delay.
I mean, weâve already waited 6 months. Whatâs the point in screwing people out of taking some time off work to enjoy the first ladder? Why not wait the two weeks. Makes no sense. Hopefully they will acknowledge that.
While I think itâs dumb to buy a game for a ladder mode as opposed to the game itself, with the mess that happened with Reforged, I can understand being upset ladder has taken longer than anticipated. However, you did assume a risk in purchase once you knew that ladder would not be at launch, especially if you had knowledge of said WC3 disaster and could have refunded prior to playing and re purchase once the ladder was released. If it were me, and ladder was the ONLY thing I cared about, I would have refunded the moment I knew it wasnât included out of the box at launch. So yes, players do have to take some responsibility for purchases based on assumptions, whether or not part if not all the fault is based on the company releasing the product. This is what is called spending money wisely. I wonât purchase D4 at launch after experiencing server issues with both D3 and D2R. I even have reservations about purchase of any new product at launch anymore after negative server experiences with Endwalker (game and story were great, server issues were garbo) and recently Edge of Eternity PS4 (again, game itself was great, but riddled with crash issues including the final boss).
They said shortly after launch. This horse has been beaten beyond death. No one on sept 22 had reason to believe it would go to March without ladder which is All I needed. 98%+ of players thought it would be in 2021 and sooner than December. If they said it was going to take a while I would have. Thatâs not what was said. So it was a practice run. Played to killing Ubers and stopped. I will not take blame for a company misleading and under delivering. I mean I wonât spend another penny on blizzard even post Microsoft after this.
Edit : Analogy from before. I loan you $40 you say youâll pay me back sept 23. Then you tell me hey man I donât have a job yet but I will soon and Iâll get it to you shortly after the 23rd. Iâm like fine whatever I can wait. Now itâs been 6 months and I still donât have my money. I guess itâs my fault for trusting a deadbeat but deadbeats know how to stall and lie
You gambled on them being able to deliver post launch. They were not able to, and yes, they assume some fault. But you still gambled. You lend money to a friend on the assumption that they will pay you back in a timely manner and they donât. While your friend is at fault, you still made the gamble. All parties assume fault. If they said ladder would be on at launch, and it wasnât, then Blizzard would have been solely at fault, as you purchased a product that did not work as intended at launch.
Realistically, how many companies are that flexible to give more than a day or two off with only a two weeks notice outside of something like a death in the family/family medical procedure? Most people I have spoken with, have to plan time off a month or two in advance, especially with businesses that have a multitude of employees that also want time off. I mean, not trying to say itâs not important to a gamer to have as much notice as possible, as Iâd be a hypocrite to claim otherwise. I did plan my vacation time for next month around Chrono Cross remaster, even after the failed gamble with Endwalker. Worst case scenario, I play more 2.4 D2R, lol.
So itâs my fault even though literally everyone (I.e 98-99%+) believed ladder would be out in 2021 and Iâd argue the majority thought 2-3 weeks. This is what I mean about rewriting history. With the info everyone had on sept 22. There was 0 reason to think launch would be March or later. Even February I would have been able to play as ridiculous as 5 months would have been.
To them assuming some fault. They have assumed zero fault and aggressively fought refunds
They basicially Jebaited everybody during the announcement saying âLadder will be SHORTLY after releaseâ.
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Thatâs the part everyone seems to want to ignore and I donât know why.
Yeah and what I donât understand even more are the time off guys. I mean bots will win the race to 99 and econemy anyway. Well I guess if people have nothing of value like holidays with the fam or something or are actually professional like World first WoW raiders or something, but for an arpg (esp. one thatâs plagued by bots and scam sites like jsp and others with p2w) I donât really understand it.
You still had the knowledge that ladder, the only thing you wanted, was not included out of the box. You gambled on the assumption that they could deliver shortly after launch, pending no major server issues/bugs. Surprise surprise, there were massive server issues and bugs, and hence shortly after launch was delayed. Whether you agree with the delay or not, that is the reality of the situation. You gambled, you lost. Do you not have a right to be upset? Negative, you have every right. Doesnât mean that you didnât gamble, and have to assume that risk.
Ehh, It does make sense. If you and a group hit ladder running at launch, and push towards endgame fast, there are prestige points for being first in servers for doing so, as well as being able to take advantage of the early trade market. If you are the only in your group that didnât get the time off, then you could be left behind fast and are trying to play catchup.
? Fire mastery getâs applied at casting and at attacking, working as intended, or what to you mean?
There is a bug though with ranged weapons that mastery is only applied at casting, not at attacking, which should be fixed.
It isnât identical, itâs not even the same.
Go back to reddit.
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I mean if trusting what Blizzard says is a gamble then ok, I gambled. But Iâm just asking for them to stick to their word. Youâre overthinking it.
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