People keep trying to scam me

[Zelderon-11409]

Today 5 different people tried to scam me by putting up a replicate item that looks the same as the item i want, thinking I would fall for it. There is no report function for scamming… just cheating(which i have been using). This is super annoying because it is a waste my time. Do something about this BS because some poor newb will fall for this.

[admonitu-1555]

This was a thing in the original D2 too. If you want, you can try online trading forum or even d2jsp. Believe or not, those people are actually more trustworthy than some random players you meet in a random trade game.

I got tired of scam attempts and inability to find items I need reliably even when I have other items of enough worth to trade for. At one point in original D2 I pretty much lost hope for this game and the community and then… stumbled upon d2jsp and it pretty much restored my interest in the game again.

[Wyrmheart-1343]

As much as I hate that D2JSP is ruining the economy, I concur that it’s at least safe to trade there. I guess they put a lot more effort into security when there’s actual money on the line with each trade…

[teafan-11936]

someone link the carbot vid so it can be used as a PSA.
Get a lesson and a laugh all in one

Also, what a strange endorsement above

[Hahnfruh-2414]

@teafan-11936

someone link the carbot vid so it can be used as a PSA.

How to Trade in Diablo 2 | DiabLoL 2 Ep26

[teafan-11936]

thank you Hahnfruh haha

I really really hope that most of the diablo community can agree…
Carbot is a treasure and must be protected at all costs

[Alekk-21494]

Nothing will be done, and that’s fair.
As much as I hate people trying to do this I don’t think there is anything specific blizzard can do about them that would be fair overall.
I do not want a report function for that as it can be abused as every other report function.
I do not want this game to become overwatch, where my account get’s silenced for literally everything i say or not say, do or not do and then I am unable to play just because my account is silenced.
This is absolutely ridiculous and unacceptable. And I don’t want it in this game.

So, keep your eyes open for scams, just like you do in real life and don’t ask someone else to do everything for you

[Zelderon-11409]

looks like you are offended. You must do this scam

[Guitars-1883]

happens in real life too. hence why there are websites and forums dedicated to trading in the safest way possible. people may hate JSP but sadly it is one of the few ways to get a legitimate trade, whether trading with a long time/known member or by using a moderator to facilitate the exchange.

blizzard does not want to waste more time and money, it would be silly for them to track each scam. just be smart with how you deal with strangers like in RL…

[Zelderon-11409]

I am looking at the items before I trade… but its a waste of my time when you got multiple scammers trying to scam you. They could just add a feature where the text is shown of the item that is placed in the trade window to discourage them more. I will def check out d2jsp though.

[TheTias-1192]

I’m going to put here a suggestion I had made for Diablo 3 to secure the trading window precisely because the same scams were happening there (in vanilla D3) as were happening in D2, and now D2R.

The following may seem complicated, but once experienced you’d quickly get used to it, and it would prevent scamming in the ways seen in this thread. Any references in this original quote to Diablo 3 or gold ar irrelevant to D2R:

The main outlet for trading is the trade window. Right now, a trade can be initiated, and then changed much too quickly for the human eye (and reflexes) to manage. The singular, best way to fix this is to deal directly with the offending part of the UI responsible for the trades.

While we all love instant gratification, in the case of the D2R UI, it may be wisest to take a deep breath and slow things down. Here’s how it would play out in a fixed UI:

1. Player A puts the items or gold into the trade window via right click (no other method is allowed). Player A then clicks a button marked This is my offer, and Player A’s trade window UI is then locked down and cannot be accessed again. At this time, a snapshot of Player A’s unique item identifier (UID) fingerprint information is sent to Player B’s client for processing near the end of the transaction. Each item placed in the trade window has its own UID, and all UIDs are stored in the other player’s client in the snapshot.

2. Player B puts items or gold into the trade window (again, right click only for items) and also clicks This is my offer, which then locks Player B’s trade window UI down as well. A snapshot of Player B’s UID info is sent to Player A.

3. At this time, Both players will see a button marked Accept Trade start pulsing. Both players must click the Accept Trade button to initiate the next step in the trade. At this time, both players’ trade window UI remain locked down (other than the buttons that are pulsing).

4. Once both players have clicked Accept Trade, the two clients check the contents of each other player’s trade window and matches them against the UID snapshot taken at the beginning of the trade. If all UIDs match the contents in both player trade windows, a countdown timer of ten seconds initiates to finalize the trade. This countdown only appears once both clients acknowledge each other’s UID info to be exact matches to the items in the trade windows. At this time the trade window UI remains locked down still.

Note: At any time during the trade up to the beginning of Step #4, either player may click the Cancel Trade button, which will initiate a popup window on both screens and a ten second countdown, starting only after both clients acknowledge receipt of the trade cancellation.

5. During the ten second trade finalization countdown, neither player may cancel the trade, as all trade window UI actions are now locked down. At the end of the countdown, the contents of both items are traded and the transaction is concluded.

Summary of conditions during trading:

1. The Save and Exit Game button is disabled once the Trade UI is invoked, remaining disabled until the trade is complete or is aborted.
   
   
2. For each of the steps listed above, the next step in the process does not begin until both clients acknowledge completion of the current step. This is to prevent taking advantage of latency.
   
   
3. During each step, only the relevant Trade Window UI buttons will be active, with the Cancel Trade button being available until the beginning of Step #4

Now, while it may seem complicated from an explanation standpoint, the front end user interface (UI) will be very straightforward and will only let you act in regard to the specific step of the trade process you’re still in. The ten second countdown timers are to prevent taking advantage of latency. Keep in mind that ten seconds = 10,000ms, and latency almost never hits that high a number.

And there you have it, a safe, secure trade window with multiple fallbacks.

[LycheeJuice-1331]

Hmmm can someone explain how this scam really works? I haven’t done much trading or at all (just only did one trade but that was through the trading forums here) so I want to know what to look out for so I can protect myself. I don’t mean how they do it but like what do they do 'cause I am a bit confused from what the OP describes it as (my English is a bit weak lol).

[Bodach-1471]

Scammers are scum, but that’s the authentic D2 experience. There is a wild west variable to this game that is integral.

[Nickie-11685]

@LycheeJuice-1331

mmm can someone explain how this scam really works?

If they put a Shako in the trade window, you’ll look at the stats, aesthetics (green), etc and see it is indeed a shako.

If you both agree to trade, they’ll let you press the checkmark first, and then they’ll press cancel which will close the window and can also happen if your inventory is full ( Or they’ll say they cancelled by accident).

Then you’ll open the trade back up, they’ll wait for you to put your item in, then they’ll put back the “green shako” and instantly press the checkmark, and then you’ll most likely do that in return completing the trade.

But when you look at the shako in your inventory, you’ll find that you don’t have a shako, you have a regular cap socketed with a green gem which made the brown cap turn green. It’s just scam that takes advantage of peoples trust/impatience/desperation.

[Wyrmheart-1343]

always double triple and quadruple check before making any trade…

[Aradrox-1699]

So all the OGs have been through these scams before and much worse.

When I was a teen I thought it would be awesome to join a clan… Well they wanted me to sign up on a website sounds reasonable… Next thing I know my character is dropping all it’s items.

Welcome to d2 stay awhile and listen.

[Смертоног-237433]

Great, learn social experience while playing games

[UncleFester-1938]

This is how the D2 trade window has pretty much always worked. They added in the inability to trade if you remove or change an item but basically it’s buyer PAY ATTENTION. Yes it’s a waste of time when someone pulls this cancel re-post the trade window with a “fake” item you want, but honestly, if you’re so eager to put your offer in and hit the checkmark without double and triple checking what’s in the window before you accept the trade, then you’re a sucker who deserves the hard lesson in life – and NO I’m not condoning the behavior or scammers.

Morale of the story is: Check the item before you trade, always, EVERY TIME the window is closed / re-opened. Yes you will have scum buckets who waste your time with this bs but that unfortunately is the way of the world.

[BiC-11732]

dude, this has been part of the game since day 1 release. Take the time to mouse over the item and double check. Why does everything need an action taken by the governing body (blizzard)

[DeadlyMouse-1231549]

There’s an older than me saying…

“Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.”

So, umm, maybe stop being the victim?