MF system and player base is dead empty

I had almost 800 mf and all I would find is blues, sets, rares, and normal uniques in HELL games. How is this even “working as intended” when people are wasting their unproductive time to be even more unproductive? I did find a perfect wartravs, chances, and 29 maras but I know it was random RNG because when I found another couple of chances in a HELL game they were not even close to perfect. Too much RNG in this game is so toxic, just look at the many complaints of WoW titanforging.

Lastly, the player base is dead empty. Most games are just unfair ripoff trades with only 1 player in it or the very few and barely filled hell chaos and baal runs (hell chaos is way faster than hell baal for leveling, it’s more engaging, and you get a higher chance of getting higher runes like 1 vex and 1 ist that I saw in the ~500 games I played to level all my alts to 86). BTW use the glitch rush to avoid all the normal and nightmare lvl grind. You can easily lvl up to 80 in 2 hours with the hell chaos glitch rush strat, especially before they randomly fix it.

To fix these issues the devs need to

  1. implement player 8 magic finding setting in online solo play to prevent leveling games or mf thieves from being so toxic

  2. fix magic find to increase chances of finding unique items and decrease the chances of finding blues and greens by a lot

  3. fix magic find so it only drops gear matching its difficulty such as hell gear in hell lvl

  4. high runes need a tiny bit higher chances to drop or at least be affected by magic find to a tiny extent so magic find stat doesn’t become entirely useless end game

  5. hork barb should have 100% chance to get another loot roll instead of ~50% at max 20, game is already dead so might as well make this great change

Now I’m just going to casually farm an ist for 2 hrs with arcane/temple spamming while my lucky friend finds me loot (nvm I might quit instead, keys are taking too long and I would rather play something else; I’ve peaked in this game before and it gets so boring and repetitive when you have that peak epiphany).

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Please look up how MF actually works in D2.

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Lovely… Another “make these changes or I quit” ultimatum post.

/mute

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Short answer:
NO!
Git gud.

Enough of this nonsense.

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I already seen vids and articles on it and know how terrible it is. You don’t think grinding your life away to insane RNG is not terrible?

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Don’t grind your life away then? I only MF in short bursts, maybe 30 minutes or an hour a day tops, at only 200-300 mf, and have found most every item in D2R at this point except for the 15 rarest items or so. No grinding life away required, no 800 mf required. It’s not the system that’s bad…

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How do you “git gud” when it’s all due to insanely low chances and repetitive rolls? That doesn’t take any skill. A monkey can do that. It’s just mind-numbing throwing-your-life-away grind.

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You’re ideally supposed to play to have fun. Why are you stressing so much of MFing? It’s supposed to be a chill activity. You’re not supposed to “expect” anything.

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learn to duel and wager all ur wealth on a single fight

then do that again and a agin until u rich or go broke

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So just leave. Nobody needs you here.

I won’t repeat it again.

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Its always the trolls or lucky few that actually get gear with low mf that think the system is not bad. What about the tons of other players that are finding literally nothing even with near best-in-slot mf? It’s all RNG and has barely anything to do with mf. I looted a arach sash from hell diablo in a player 8 when the person that dealt the killing blow had near 0 mf. How does that even make any sense??

Hence, the mf system is broken because it isn’t favoring people with high mf as it would be intended.

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You must never have played the original D2 then. That is how it was then and basically the point of this game. Did you think it was just to clear all of hell? The main sell and to keep people is to MF. It is a very grindy game and always has been.

^ So much this. Why do hours upon hours of grinding? I mean, unless that is what you love then don’t complain because if you get everything you want then why even keep playing?

Then this game isn’t for you anymore. Nothing wrong with that. Plenty of other games for you. This is a remaster and doesn’t need the best uniques raining from the sky.

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You don’t even explain yourself, such a troll. Don’t even give tips or anything useful for the community. Just flaming people that actually want better change for the community. Good for you.

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Why would I explain something to someone like you? You clearly don’t want to play this game. So just leave and stop whining.

Trash request from trash people. Like a 4 year old toddler… give it to me or I hold my breath…

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Funny how the more I understand the game and how MF and kill speed and what zones and enemies to target actually works, the luckier I get, hmm…

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Why do you gotta exaggerate the feedback about the mf system. I never asked that. I’m asking for normal uniques to not drop from hell skies. I’m asking for people who never found a high rune in their entire year of gaming to finally find one. I’m asking for the amount of insane grind to actually match the reward. Even when you finally get the best loot you realized you just wasted all that time of your life just to kill the exact same 20-year old monster faster. That experience seems terrible and should be fixed.

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It sounds like you simply don’t like or enjoy MFing in D2. That isn’t a problem with D2 though…so please feel free to move on to another game you actually enjoy.

Not when it doesn’t work as intended and is entirely RNG. You’re just lucky (RNG). RNG favors people randomly and yes the more kills you have means you’re rolling for more RNG so yes obviously you theoretically should have more loot. But the constant negative feedback that I experienced from not getting any useful loot compared to you with less than half of my mf is concerning. I hate insane RNG and just want it to be toned down a bit, but for sure normal uniques should stop dropping from hell lvl content. Don’t exaggerate this.

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Hence my first comment …please look up how MF actually works. Because you clearly have no clue.

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You clearly have no clue either. I should still see better gear than you overall with higher mf but I don’t, regardless of the diminished returns or increased chances of blues/sets/rares overwhelming the increased chances of uniques. My kill or teleport speed barely changes when using skill charms and faster cast rate gear compared to full mf, but the problem is regardlless of what gear I have on my loot is the same. That is the problem. When the mf gear you have on has no positive influence on what you loot then yes the mf system is broken, especially when others get bis loot with way less mf. This happened the same for my friend. His kill speed is similar to mine with only 100 mf, and he found a shaco and many other actually useful loot when I can’t even find one. I have way more mf, play time, and boss+ mob kills than him and he barely plays and gets way more loot which makes no sense. Too much uncontrollable RNG and I hate it.

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