Melee chars to weak (grief)

lots of aoe for melee already. barb got whirlwind, and singer barb. paladin holy fire / freeze / Shock. martial arts assassin got some, dragon tail + tiger strike have insane high fire aoe. druid rabies. java amazon got lots of good options too. and you can get weapons like crescent moon, stormlash, rift etc. for added area effects.

WW is not an Aoe skill. You do not know?

what do you mean? whirlwind quickly hits multiple monsters in it’s path. sounds close enough to me.

No you are wrong. in D3 is an aoe skill not in d2.
Ww doing multiple hit to a single target but if there are more targets it divides them among them.
An Aoe ability does its damage multiplied by the number of targets not divided by the number of targets. As you can see it is very different.
Ww does not scale with the number of targets, blizzard, meteor, nova etc. yes

aoe damage affect’s a area or multiple targets. whirlwind does damage on multiple targets. it’s just like different types of aoe really.

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Blizzard doing 10k x 10 mob =100k
WW doing 10k x 10 mob = 10k
What else is there to understand?

blizzard is an overpowered aoe compared to whirlwind. yes, agreed.

I think they just should remove this -cr to enemy in comd mastery. I mean light and fire mastery hasnt to -resi to enemy.

then nerv the casters…
buffing skills is the only thing that blizzard is capable of. and look what happend ? Diablo 3 \O/
WÄÄÄÄRGH…

ah whatever…

In regard to the rare being better than Grief = It probably wouldnt - Ignore defense, huge MINIMUM damage, socketed in the fastest possible base, with loads of IAS. Your rare would have to be some kind of perfection.

In terms of the wider argument that Clea\ve should be implented, it absolutely should not. Melee such as Frenzy Barbs should be much better at single targets than everything else, this simply isnt th case. Dont only help the barb, but lets get to waiving that nerf stick a bit.

Why do players require asking for the most obscene drops, and if they can’t get them, then something else needs to be buffed to compensate?

Why put powercreep into so many words? Just create a runeword competitor for Grief, and just accept that some rare drops are obscene.

If you lost to someone with a 450ed in PvP, just accept that person being the one in 2 billion that will win. While you’re at it, accept that Diablo PvP has never been balanced, even remotely, and worrying about getting dunked on by some 1 in 2 billion drop is absolute pepega.

If we’re talking PvE, who cares?

I like how Whirlwind worked in the original WoW where it instantly did your weapon damage + some to all enemies within a range.