Except you followed up with this 
Telling someone Iām arguing with that Iām āthe problemā and that āIts probably better to ignore him. People like that dont understand game and are immune to logic thinking.ā isnāt just saying you understand. Itās saying you agree.
Zahraman is banned , so now hes other account,Lumpus, is on a roll 
No I based what I said on previous coversations with you in multiple topics.
Except you werenāt talking to me, you were talking to the guy I was arguing with.
In fact, I even mentioned that you and Bugles were only agreeing with Onadroig because he disagreed with me here:
and you still continued to side with Onadroig.
Thereās no excuse or way out for siding with him. You simply did it to be a d*** because it was me on the other side.
So, there you have it. You ignorantly sided with an idiot just to oppose whatever it was that I said, even if I was arguing against ploot paired with an 8x increase in drop rates.
Congratulations on siding with a guy that wants ploot and an 8x increase in drop rates.
I guess I dont agree with both of you then. That doesnt mean I cant still understand the points others are making. There is multiple versions of ploot and people cant even agree which version would be best. Anyway both ploot and /players X would only damage online play so I dont want to see any of it online.
Ploot would encourage online play as one would have a fair chance to get drops with PC controller users, pickit cheaters, ninja looters, differential ping, melee versus ranged, item filter users, maphackers, etcā¦
p8 would make it so jerks do not come into quest games and kill bosses.
Most importantly it would make nobody come into public games anymore as its inferior way of leveling and getting items.
LOL, a bit late for that. Youāve already empowered an idiot.
Again, you went beyond understanding and went into trashing the opposing argument. If your claim is that you didnāt agree with him, just "understood, why didnāt you āunderstandā both of our points of view? You didnāt do that, did you? You picked a side to āunderstandā over another. Like it or not, thatās called agreeing with someone.
If a person can effectively get /players8 online now, how will offering it damage online play? Do you damage online play when you join games with seven other people only to do your own thing outside of the group?
My only argument was that a person can get away with /players8 online now through various, legal methods. You showcased one of them by joining a game and doing your own thing. If a person can get it now by being āanti-socialā such as your example, how would making it an option be any less antisocial or damage online play in any way?
Any anyway you look at it, /players8 is better than ploot/iloot and increasing drop rates.
This is reason why I said what I said before. Its pointless to keep explainign same stuff again and again to you. I already epxlained this to you mutliple times in different topics.
So for the last time:
Number of people doing it now is small, you still are part of online public game anyway and its not easy or accesible to have 8 accounts on your own.
People do join public games for various reasons. If you introduce /players X you eliminate most of those reasons because not only solo play would be best for looting, but also for leveling. Both with minimal effort.
No, Ploot atleast doesnt destroy group play like /players X.
So if the number of people doing it increases?
8 accounts is easy if you use something like Nvidia Streamer.
We both agree that very few people join public games for loot. They group for levels. How will /players8 affect leveling groups or friends and clans that group to be social, which is really why most people actually group?
I honestly donāt think either will affect grouping that much. What ploot will do is make the /players8 version you use not as effective since some of the stuff you get while opening chests in Kurast or horking loot will be allocated to the other players.
That said, Iāve always been open to ploot if itās on a toggle and if it doesnāt increase drop rates. I would also be open to /players8 only working if youāre in a group and with that group, thus negating things like players joining games with 7 other players to do their own thing and reaping the rewards of /players8 when they arenāt actually with the group. This will also encourage grouping.
Iām also ok with doing nothing and leaving the game how it is.
We should nerf lower kurast any way
If we get p8, the meta shouldnt be opening chests
Agreed
We should:
Remove unpartied bonuses
Keep ffa up to p8, as it is now
Add instanced partied p1 as an option
Heās such a transparent clownā¦
Haha donāt fall for his tricks 
It was never once proposed that ploot be implemented with each player getting the equivalent of /players8 (THIS is what he is basing his 8x increase in drop rates point on, he things players8 = 8x drops).
Yeah I wouldnāt bother trying to reason with him.
At this point, itās just better to ask him to make a VOD showing that it he can consistently and quickly make a full 8 player game online over a prolongued period, whether itās LK chest farming, Travincal running, Pindle running, cow running or TZ running.
LOLā¦ no. Iām basing this on the other 100 times I replied to this:
If a mob generally drops one item, but suddenly drops one item per character, thatās eight times the drops.
Iāve quite literally explained this to you countless time yet the only one you seemed to read and absorb is me giving Zax an example of what you want using /players8.
Face it, he wasnāt agreeing with you. He was siding with you because his default mode is to disagree with me.
I can say the same about you and Buglesā¦ but Iām not a child making petty insults thinking they look clever.
But you know people already get this ā8xā if they play solo right? Each player in his game
Yeah but solo you have to work for that, in group you dont really have to, you can just stand and leech and everything dies.
I am waiting to hear that split mf games are social.
Still more social than private solo games. I am guy who joines those split mf games and people often communicate or even can make trade. They share what they foundā¦
Are you complaining about leechers or about the pityful 50% hp increase by player?
Its the pinnacle of social experience and should be protected at all costs