This is a question. I have pasted the section from the ToS which I believe would apply to this. There may be another part that applies as well. It’s long, I only skim through it.
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cheats; i.e. methods not expressly authorized by Blizzard (whether accomplished using hardware, software, a combination thereof, or otherwise), influencing and/or facilitating gameplay, including exploits of any in-game bugs, and thereby granting you and/or any other user an advantage over other players not using such methods;
If a person uses a process explorer to shut down the handle of “check other instances” (software), or a completely separate computer which is located in the same room as them (hardware), to load a second character in the same game seems to facilitate gameplay that will give them an advantage over other players. Has this been "expressly authorized? Has anyone heard of players being banned for having 2 accounts? There are instructions on how to do this posted by people on this forum and they have not been deleted or taken down. Has blizzard chimed in on this anywhere? It’s tough to compete on the ladder with a person who purchased 8 copies of the game and gets 8 player experience on one character.
Or is this one of those “don’t ask don’t tell” things which they are happy to ignore becuase it sells more copies?
If you’re tricking the game to let you play 2 copies on a single device, it sounds like yes. If you have a “friend” with a second account, on a second device, it might be, but I don’t know how they would detect it.
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Not allowing 2 instances of D2R is BS in the first place, you shouldn’t have to use tricks to start as many clients as you want.
It’s not BS, not allowing /player x command online is. I hope they ban for it so then multi-clienters start asking for /player x command too.
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Their argument for the refusal of /players X is “it’s a social game, we want you to group”.
Not all who use 2 clients “multibox” (in the sense of playing 2 characters or using one to buff). I have 2 accounts because
- character limit
- very low stash space
Add those together, too. How many mules can you have until Bnet tells you you can’t create any new chars? This is not a limitation offline, but people who trade a lot or just farm stuff will run into problems at some point.
I’m not against /players X, in fact, I’d LOVE the feature. Playing with others, I only ever see items blink in and out of existence when something dies, and before the thing even hits the ground. Sometimes I wonder if people are using loot bots. Bit I digress.
If Blizzard somehow removes the ability to close the stupid check, I’ll find other ways around the issue, because I paid for this, and the game doesn’t have a non-battlenet LAN function. I feel a bit cheated, so I believe running as many clients as I want on my computer is rectified.
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using multiple accounts to obtain an unfair advantage is BS. you’re doing something that other people cannot accomplish (due to the limitations of their hardware) so that you can progress more quickly. cool opinion though and nice whiney self-centered presentation of it.
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Reported for inappropriate behaviour.
Can’t have a civilised discussion here without being attacked personally.
yes I’m so sure you load two games at once because of char limit and low stash space.
ok.
So, Blizzard tried to implement something which prevents players from loading two clients at once. They wanted everyone to all have an equal opportunity at progression in this game.
You’re upset about it and saying it’s BS. You’re saying you will find a way to exploit the game even if they don’t want you to.
Yet I’m the one who is behaving inappropriately and uncivilized.
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i am not blizzard but i dont see why allowing you to run two copies of the game on 1 computer would break tos… i did it all the time with sandboxie in LOD days. it still takes u owning multi copies of the game. as as long as you are not controlling more than 1 copy at once it is perfectly fine imo.
i used it to rush my other characters and transfer items safely.
and if u did it right you could even hold shift ( to stand still) and right click and drag out of the window and to have your hammerdin keep spamming hammers in the same spot. for things like baal runs and uber leveling
but the only thing ever controlling the other game running was me my mouse and keyboard. and me swapping windows in my monitors
the instant you start having a anything other than your mouse and keyboard to issue commands. or mirror commands to said other game or issue commands to both games or to send commands to both games at once. then its absolutely a breach of tos.
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In theory, you could have 2 clients on 2 monitors and move them separately, but outside of Baal throneroom I don’t see any place where that would make sense. People seem to think you can do it like in WOW and run 8-man Shaman groups and rock everything, when in reality, the client is so resource-hungry that even trading slows you down and forces you to switch to legacy mode.
I asked about multiboxing to customer support since they announced a rules change awhile back. The punchline is if everything is done manually without the aid of software and/or hardware, one is fine.
In your case, I suspect what you described is against the rules. One can legitimately have for example 2 computers in front of them and manually enter separately commands into each to multibox.
I think sandboxie counts as software to facilitate multiboxing that would break Blizzard’s rules.
I certainly don’t condemn anyone for multiboxing while there are mass bots-hacks-dupes-rmt taking place.
however, it’s quite clear that you have an advantage others don’t if you run two or more clients. it’s also not how the game was intended to be played, at all, ever. it’s a multiplayer game of course so rushes are something you would ask a friend/kind soul to perform or pay someone to do it. or you could even play the actual game to progress a new char.
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i mean yeah its not too useful, i mainly did it becuase i was an anni farmer. i coudd get 4 annis per walk with 4 games open… and like i said. using it to rush characters becuase you only need them in the same act to get quest.
so i would just rush other people and have my other character sit in the act and then swap back to hime to move once the act was complete and then go back to my rusher
could also do baal runs this way. basically as long as its exactly the same as you have 2 computers running 1 copy of the game… there is no issue… its arguable not even as good as two computers because with 2 computers u COULD control both characters with a mouse in each hand.
( although you would be to a pretty talented ambidextrous person to do that)
i dont feel like multiboxing is an issue though… its not specifically stated stated that u cant multibox… however once you multi-box it IS specially stated that you cant control more than one of them at the same time.
the way i interpret it is it doesnt matter how mnay copies you have open or how manay characters you have in games… or in lobby.
rather how many are being controlled at any one time
as soon as the amount of characters being issued commands is >1 then you’re breaking TOS. but as long as those characters are static and not doing anything until you specifically open that game window and start playing them… then its fine.
but again that’s my interpretation
Blizzards interpretation may be different in D2:R than it was in LOD
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If offline play allowed you to team up with your other clients, we wouldn’t even have this discussion. But if you want to trade items between chars on different accounts, you have to be online, and that means Bnet.
There is literally a check box built into battle net launcher that allows for multiple instances of b-net to be run at the same time.
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To answer the title. Technically anything not included in the base range is against TOS and bliz can ban if they see fit