I’ve been hearing this from you guys that weapons need to be stronger. I do agree with that but I think I would like to make them stronger to at least get them on par with casters. People here may not agree with me and that’s fine too. Here is my idea for weapon damage improvements:
Any weapon with edmg on it would have improved damage on the weapon by increasing it’s minimum and maximum damage by 3. Kind of like how armors work by giving them max defense +1.
2, Eth weapons should be boosted x2 damage rather than x1.5 damage.
I know it sounds crazy but melee is not going to catch up with casters in environmental clearing speed. We also cannot let grief be the only viable option or at least not being overused. Here are examples of what the weapons would look like:
edeathz:
lowest non sup = 192-568
perfect = 270-740
einfinity thresher:
lowest non sup = 85-1001
perfect = 132-1267
This may seem to be a bit too overpowered for some people but really it’s not. Melee relies on ar and is not guaranteed to hit. Now don’t even mention ignore target defense as it only works on normal monsters.
Yes I know this is not perfect. I would like to hear other suggestions too. I know there is room for more improvements on this topic.
in this game it’s not melee that’s the problem but ranged AOE.
why would anyone play a melee build (no matter how strong) when almost every ranged AOE build clears half the screen in just 2-3 seconds with no real mana cost ?
if you want to make melee viable you need to massively, MASSIVELY nerf aoe
all the barb can do is farm some specific, easy to access locations and hork the bodies to basically double the drops (and repeat the process at-nausea)
if you want to play the game like an automated slot machine then sure, the barb is great.
but my guess is that “normal” people want to just play the game, not turn it into a chore.
My ww barb can farm the whole game easily solo and up to p3 without switching the mf sc with maxdmg/ar charms. Until p5 it is as fast if not faster than my tesladin. In full games it indeed starts to fall behind, but if you target Pits, as I usually do in full mf games, it’s more than adequate.
Don’t get me wrong…melee could definitely use a buff, but there are still more than viable melee builds, though they can be quite expensive in order to be competitive.
“viable” is something totally different.
thorns aura paladins are viable, they can finish the game just fine, but we all know that it’s not what we’re discussing here, we’re talking about “balance”
buffing melee will not solve anything.
even if you hit for 1 million dps, you still need to hit 1 to 3 monsters at a time, while a sorc clears the screen with 2-3 casts with half the gear.
I agree with Zaman, a well equipped baba with bis gear and enigma for tele ww, clears any area pretty quick, and is very enjoyable. (and you can stack 2-300 mf easy)
They also do ubers very well.
That does not mean melee does not deserve some attention,
What they need to do is add splash damage for melee, with different elements involved. Kind of like freezing arrow
That would actually be pretty cool. Instead of having a mastery for each weapon type, they could make only one weapon mastery to encompass them all, keeping just throwing mastery separate and add some kind elemental masteries that offer you some kind of aoe/splash/cleave damage.
That would definitely close the gap to casters and also make all sunder charms useful on a barb depending on your element of choice.
I think improving weapon damage is a step in the right direction, but more can be done. The developers should Improve Itemization by also improving weapon durability, buffing superior weapons, continue improving sets, and completely overhaul uniques with tailor-made improvements. This would breathe new life into the game.
AM leaning more towards skills with aOE incorparated to them While being somewhat logical to the fantasy of the char…so
How come a dude/gal with súper human strength and a 2 meter blade cant swing it’s Big wep in an arc yo cleave it’s enemies ? (Cleave replaces the useless stun , 2h wep req)
What about vengeance exploding on hit in a 1 meter radius with each strike?
Bears and wolves : (same as barb) … etc etc .
The idea of slaping elemental damage to every 1 seems a bit off . With skills dedicated to aOE melee can choose to specialize on aOE or single target … wich imo is a Nice choice /cost .
But it still will be a big game changer hands down. I would like edeath along with other unique weapons receiving these same buffs. It’s hard enough to find a ethereal death cleaver as it is. So why not do these buffs?
I suppose we can increase the range of most the weapons by 1 except for daggers and wands maybe.
That’s why we need to make environments a little bit harder. Increased monster life and faster run/walk along with altered movements would be the key to boosting things up. There is always room for improvements.
