And what if we want to solo farm items? I’ve moved to offline because of this issue. It’s crap.
This is some next level ignorance.
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I hate this attitude. We were able to see all public games/realm for over 20 years now, why should we accept that change without complaining now?
What you say doesn’t make sense. If i make a public pvp game for example just a small fraction of players will see it and hardly anybody will join. You don’t see an issue there?
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I feel you OP, this is very annoying. Did they mention potential fixes for lobbies at all? Possibly in the Llama interview? I don’t recall anything.
Why don’t you list a game?
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Why don’t you read all the comments? You might actually understand the issue then.
I never said don’t complain; I just don’t see it solving anything. They’re clearly not doing anything about it now, so you have 2
choices as I see it:
- Complain. It will solve nothing.
- Take the problem into your own hands and make your own games. Yes I realize not everyone will see your game, but I’ve had near zero issues making my own games/runs and having people show up within a couple minutes. Some people just want a game to always show up for them so they can just join. Take the matter into your own hands and make your own games.
Like I said, people have been so used to just viewing the browser (which never worked very well anyway as it only ever showed a fraction of games available) and joining a run, they never bothered to take that 1 step themselves - make their own run. Players these days are so used to games hand holding them and handing them out nearly evertyhing the game has to offer easily, they just don’t want to use a little tiny fraction of their brain and problem solve on their own. Remember the days when games used never have a quest indicator or shower you with loot? Welcome back to those days in D2R.
I like that post and the mentality behind it, but the gamemode i’m playing (pre-expansion sc) is beyond the point where we can take things into our own hands by creating runs/games. The population of pre-expansion in d2r dropped by about 90% (approximate numbers based on d2jsp trade forums). We literally had no ingame place that allowed us to organize our community. (No channel for classic players, no private channels (op d2c or op d2classic was the meeting place for 15 years in eu, broken lobby). We tried via discord and Jsp, but it’s very grueling. I’m very well connected in the community and the three main reasons for all my friends that quit were the lobby, the channels and the unshared stash. What you say might work in gamemodes with a few thousand players, but if you have 50 online people and divide them by 20 your efforts will be futile.
Our last chance is complaining and hope for those points will be fixed before the point of no return is reached.
The California,US servers have nothing but unfair ripoff trade listings so you’re not missing out
You literally don’t freaken understand the problem. “I don’t have an issue” is literally the dumbest statement to be making. I’m “complaining” because this is a problem for quite a few people, and it needs to be addressed.
There are probably 50 players on my server at a time. That’s it. Across normal, nightmare, and hell. Whether or not I make my own games has nothing to do with the fact that the amount of players available to play with is abysmal.
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Then play something else. Clearly you’re spending more time on the forum complaining about something they are not actively (at least publicly) working on. I also see very few games, especially in Normal/NM when I’m working on a new alt. You do know you can solo the game with almost any class at these levels right? Either that or make your own games and see if anyone shows up.
I get it – you want to play with others for whatever reason. Make friends IRL and have them join your games 
Beyond that, make your own games and see if people show up – you may have to wait a few minutes but if you name them properly it shouldn’t be hard to get things like Trist runs, Tomb runs, Baal runs, cow games going as others are also looking to do the same.
If all else fails, go play something else. Bliz already has your money so they have no reason to respond to any of these posts. Yes I wish they would address the lobby issues (even pre D2R the game lobby system was trash by modern standards), but I’m not going to sit in a forum and complain about it when I could just be playing the game myself.
The thing is, if no one talked about this, they wouldn’t even bother fixing it. In fact, they didn’t even know it needed fixing in the first place (most people didn’t). I’m sure most of them don’t have memories of D2 Battle net in 2001 - 2005. Or barely played D2 in the last 10 years, and even if they did, we all play it in different ways (some prefer private games with friends, some prefer JSP, and some prefer the casual online experience).
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It’s not just a small group of people that want this fixed, many people have talked about this since launch without realizing what exactly the problem is (split game-list servers). Even veteran players have a hard time understanding what the difference is between the original multiplayer experience vs now.
How is it that modders were able to reprogram the original online mode and make it better than Blizzard? Those are modders working for free. That right there is proof that this isn’t something outrageous to be asking for. In my opinion they should just hire the PD2 guy under temporary contract to help out for a few months.
I’m spending more time talking about this here than playing the game because I think it would be rude to spam the devs on twitter or linkden asking about this. I’m not trying to be disrespectful, but If I was working on a project with millions of eager and passionate fans, I would want the structural integrity of the game to be sound before moving on to other areas.
I’m confident this one issue has caused more people to quit the game than the devs realize. This would not be a great experience for casual players. It’s not a great experience for Hardcore players, it’s not a great experience for Classic players, and it’s not going to be a great experience for ladder players.
Guys like Dbrunski and Llama are doing a great job bringing attention to this game and community, but that’s going to go to complete waste if they don’t fix the online mode. It’s like a hole in a ship. If we patch the hole up, this game has endless potential for where it ends up. If that hole never gets patched, this ship is going to sink exponentially as players begin to leave.
The new patch is amazing. But that’s just putting sprinkles on half-baked cupcake.
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Trust me – the developers are aware of the lobby issues. It’s not being address at least publicly which is probably the source of most of the frustration. For all we know they could be working on it. The solution may not be as simple as some may think it is – perhaps they simply needed to get the database actually working properly before they could tackle this issue (building a house on sand and all that jazz).
We all want to see a better lobby system – making 200 posts and threads about it doesn’t help. There’s not much that hasn’t already been said that continues to need to be said. Until they acknowledge they are working on it, all you’re doing is tinkling in the wind.
Until it’s addressed, feel free to continue playing D2R - forum edition as that may be more enjoyable for some. Some of us will try and play the game and have fun, find work-arounds / mitigations for the existing issues, or simply move on / not play until they are addressed. This is a game, why play it if you’re not having fun? There are plenty of other things to do.
They were aware that there were multiple “lobby” issues, some of them are less important than others. I went out of my way to narrow down specifically what is the primary issue, because most people here didn’t know, and I’m going to assume you didn’t know either judging from your first response on this thread (so how would they know?).
The problem is when I do go do the research (to make sure I’m not merely speculating), my thread just bombs to the bottom without much support shown from this community. How are the devs supposed to become aware of it without it being talked about? That’s what they ask us to do every update, provide feedback in the forum.
They should do this. And until they do, I support anyone that continues to talk about it. That’s the only way it’s ever going to be addressed.
And that’s exactly why this issue has still not been fixed. I’ve seen one of Rob Fergusson’s responses on twitter. They have to go through a whole approval process of what things they work on. If they think the community is fine with how things are (which is exactly the kind of impression this community has given so far), they’re not going to approve anything. Did you see the last lobby improvements they made? The ability to see who you’ve muted with a little fancy graphic. Those are the kinds of things they see is “wrong” with the lobby.
If they release ladder in this state, it would be completely ironic and is going to actually be the nail in the coffin for online mode. NL will either end up a ghost town, or there will be another split among an already split community.
You see, I think you and me discussing right now actually increases the odds of this being fixed before ladder. Imagine if I didn’t say anything about it in the past 2 weeks, there would be less relative info on the subject and peoples threads would bomb to narnia.
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When I log into the Americas region, I see only a few games. When I log into Europe region, I see all the games. Idk if it’s a bug but for some reason on Americas server it only shows 5-8 games.
Please, please fix the lobby.
It’s incredibly tedious to find a public multiplayer game because you can’t see very many.
True, you can make your own, but other players have the same problem: They can’t see you.
“Make friends?” Sure, that works to an extent. But, it’s not exclusive with getting the lobby fixed. The two complement each other. Plus, the lobby is a good way to meet other players & well, make friends.
On top of the game list, the chat channels need to be fixed. Trade, Dueling, Classes, Trade, private channels, all of them facilitate the essential social aspect of a cooperative multiplayer game.
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