gAmE iS dEaD - no its not 😡

I’m championing changes because it the lack of those that makes the game freaking dead atm

Been saying it since Day 1

D2R needs an endgame/activities on launch of first ladder otherwise it’ll die fast

The game has been solved to its deepest core over the 20years, new graphics can only be a novelty for so long before “been there done dat” comes back home

Will make it dead? Or is it already dead?

Which is it?

Also, since day one? People knew what they were buying, we’ve known for 20 years. Part of the reason they remastered this game at all, is that it’s still around 20 years later.

They advertised the game as a remaster on launch and further content after

Also, “customers knew what they were buying”
Has never been an excuse for a company selling a lacklustre product

I agree that the game could have A LOT more people playing than it currently has if Blizzard actually adds interesting content to the game. And it’s not hard at all. It’s so easy to mod a new doorway entrance that leads to an area with new monsters, etc. And people would eat that up. It would not come close at all to tampering with the original game.

There’s so much they could do. Any new item with new graphics would add a ton of interest to the game.

I agree they should start making tasteful decisions to gather more interest.

There’s a reason people are playing PD2 because we’ve known for decades that good graphics means absolutely nothing.

Since before day 1 you were spamming all of this. It was tolerable then, because everyone wanted to get our their opinions, making it known to the developers where the pre-order crowd stood. The game at launch was more popular than even I figured, which is part of why the servers constantly keeled over due to more zero day sales than were imagined (granted, a good number of these were probably botters getting their testing in before ladder and the true test).

I wouldn’t exactly go that far. While the primary audience are those of us that played the original game, Blizzard’s reach is pretty far and they introduced this to all major consoles. You might not see as many from that demographic here in a forum though, as I’d assume most of them would more frequent Reddit/Twitter/Dischord/etc. Remasters also sell pretty well in major franchises, I think I remember seeing that FFX/FFX-2 Remaster sold more than FFXIII-3 back in 2014.

And they have already stated multiple times too, that what they did would reflect the direction the playerbase wanted, and had to fit within their pillars of what D2 is. D2R is highly doubtful to get actual, meaningful new content beyond updating mechanics, balance, additional quality of life, new items, maybe a new endgame boss or two.

One might argue that jaded customers felt cheated because they thought D2R would immediately go into maintenance mode with no updates beyond releasing ladder and bug fixes, touting the verbatim of “Same gameplay you know and love” as mantra evidence. Most normal folk that paid attention, knew what they were buying: A remaster that was almost 1 to 1 at launch, with some updates down the line, which is exactly what is happening. We got a balance patch for season 1, they have spoken about that they were having discussions of what future updates could happen, etc. Just because you thought 2.4 was a lackluster product, doesn’t mean that the general playerbase did. Outside of crappy optimization and interfering old database code at launch, the product has been fine for most people.

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You’re the one that needs to seek help for telling someone who has an opinion you don’t agree with it go seek help and “unplug” lol

Buddy, just because your standards of gaming are so trash you’ll accept anything the dev’s give to you doesn’t make you right. In fact your so wrong in your opinion you need to educate yourself on levels of quality of video games and why people choose to play certain classes to be more efficient. There’s a meta for a reason, just because you decide to play the game your inefficient way, doesn’t mean everyone does that.

The fact that the moral majority of people play cookie cutter meta builds says a lot. Having more information at a players disposal makes them more efficient at not wasting their time.

You’re missing the point entirely, again, not a high enough intelligence to read between the lines. You took everything I said literally and then twisted my words to your own warped perception of reality so you can psychoanalyze me and call me crazy… You’re a sheep and you need to get your head examined… and no, I’M for real this time… you’re an absolute loon.

People use turboHUD on D3, they use map hacks so they can become more efficient at playing because not everyone has the time some people have, but again, it’s all just selfishness and greed at the end of the day. You see the world through your eyes and no one else’s… and that’s fine but you’re wrong in your assessment about me and the facts I’ve presented… lots of people use map hack, hence the huge ban wave.

It is greed. People who don’t have time to play a game without cheats should reconsider the games they play or the expectations they have. If you suck at 1st person shooter and don’t have time to practice, then maybe you shouldn’t play them in multiplayer mode. It would not be ok to use wallhack and aimbot, just because you are a tool.

Same goes for D2R & D3 and turboHud and Maphack.

Welcome back from your forum timeout, little troll.

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game was never dead and the remaster name is stupid.

TLDR, hope it didn’t take long.

They don’t want new players. They wanted old players, who will never enjoy any other Blizzard game, to buy it again, which they did. D4 will get them new players. And the old players will grumble about it sucking and keep playing D2R.

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Yeah not a troll just someone who throws logic at people who live in a bubble and think the world just works the way they demand it does… lol you were probably that kid that ratted on other kids to the teacher in school and everyone bullied you… looks like not much as changed as a pathetic adult. :wink:

Cheer’s buddy, enjoy your false reality. You’re the tool dude. Keep obeying your masters and not having an original thought in your head.

100% troll or stupid.

Sounds like you are stuck with a preteen mind

So if people don’t break the rules they don’t have original thoughts and just obey their masters? Seems like you are right, you aren’t trolling, you are just dumb.

That’s not good numbers. It’s not dead but it’s not thriving either and here’s how I can tell. I’m active in a popular trading discord and have used it since release. When the game was new the discord channels looked like a scrolling page of countless trade offers. You couldn’t keep a single offer on the screen more than a moment before it was pushed up by new offers. Now those same discord channels have maybe a few listings a day. So you have people still playing and trading but at a very small fraction of what it used to be.

Seems normal for Diablo 2 to me, still a bit more than numbers from the graphics overhaul left than I expected. I mean, it is not crazy like during a ladder reset or when the d2r came out but I mean what do folks expect?

thats 50 people…

games dead, they killed it.

Diablo was never really a multiplayer game anyway. Multiplayer Diablo was a grafted-on afterthought.
I doubt that multiplayer is really “dying” - someone has been saying that for 18 years.
But even if it is, it’s only a small and unimportant part of the game, AFAIC.

True, but what game doesn’t die off as time goes on? People do get bored of games . It happens to literally everything although some do maintain higher counts.

D2 has a core audience and they will always be playing off and on just like og d2. The whole point of this is let d2 run on modern systems

Probably due to the fact that rampant botting is going on and blizzard won’t even recognize it. They’d rather ban people for using a maphack than actual bots. I quit long ago and will not be returning until they say something about bots

This would be the consequences of never implementing new content. “real new content”.
The options out there compared to farming non stop to build the same character the other 10 players in the game have is pointless.
The only people who still play, are people who enjoy trading and pvp.
If jsp didnt exist. There wouldnt be a soul on this game.

^^^ Maru, yes also this… The bots. another huge issue. and has been since 1990

Hmmm… Unemployed people also exist and given the mind-blowing farm and the time this game takes, I’d be surprised if there weren’t any unemployed people. Don’t take your case for a generality, not everyone has a job or children or anything.

If what I see on your screen are all the people currently playing D2R and this in the middle of the evening, then the game is indeed dead. There were a lot more people before and the question is: “Why did they stop the game”.