Diablo 2 Resurrected is a remaster and should be played and loved the same way the classic was, here's why

General Discussion
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Since so many people want to say that D2R is not a remaster and that the game needs so many changes like D3 here is what the D2R main page says right as you scroll down.

A Timeless Classic, Resurrected

 "Diablo® II: Resurrected™ is a remastered version of the quintessential action RPG Diablo® II."

This is one of the first things you see on the Diablo 2 Resurrected main page

Furthermore,

"Classic gameplay—the same Diablo II you know and love, preserved."

There are 2 things here I would like to address from this quote

Classic gameplay:
This suggests that the game will be the same as the classic and that the same game mechanics will be present in the gameplay. I believe that this game will truly be the best it can be with the classic game mechanics.

Preserved: The developers have stated that their main focus on D2R is to preserve the feel and experience that players had in the original and to not stray from that in any big way. They have spent time looking at the original Diablo game and the original Diablo 2 game to see what was adapted from both games at the time to make diablo 2. They have paid attention to the finest of detail and are still working to make this game as close to the original as they possibly can.

I do not believe that this classic remaster needs to have changes that D3 or PoE players want. This is in my opinion, with evidence to support, a game made in appreciation of what really made the diablo franchise as popular as it is today through diablo 2. All of its amazing, memorable, dark, gritty, and even flawed ways have stood as the pinnacle of the diablo franchise. It may have not been a perfect game but I would make the argument that playing tetris with your inventory, picking up every potion and scroll, trying to stay away from hostile players, grab the loot you earned faster than those players, and trying to preserve space for new items with an inventory full of charms is part of what made this game so memorable and challenging and enjoyable.

Diablo 2 is not a game that will hold your hand and give you unlimited gold, unlimited gems, unlimited space, overpowered damage bonuses, and the ability to switch every decision you have made with your gear and skills at will.

Diablo 2 Resurrected will have a bigger stash and the ability to toggle Auto-gold but those are not changes that really change the experience at all. Those are changes that are more convenient but not at all harmful to the game. I am in favor of these

I hope to see Diablo 2 Resurrected played almost the exact same way as the original. People can complain about the original as much as they want and keep wanting change but I believe that if they had played the original the way they are intending the new game to be they wouldn’t remember it and love it as much as we all do.

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I dont want to make it more easy, i would like to see new good features and quality of live improvement. And bug fixes.

Then new uniques added and skill changes. Diablo 2 is not perfect game and a lot can be improved with right aproach.

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its already too much and a slippery slope. next thing you know we have personal loot and infinite inventory space

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As long as they don’t do more than that I will be fine but you are right to worry.

I don’t want to see diablo 2 and the legacy it has left behind these past 20 years be tarnished by what the remaster could do in its name.

I don’t want to see them turn a diablo 2 game into diablo 3

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They already have changes in. You can try and cite those sentences like they are legalese, but the fact remains they will change the game and you won’t convince people who want changes that they don’t. The devs have said they are open to them, that’s why you guys are lashing out so badly.

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If they do many change in this remake, it should be the laughing stock

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Actually I wouldn’t say anyone is “lashing out” and every person that doesn’t want the game to be changed from the classic game in any drastic way has had reason after reason why the game shouldn’t be changed in those ways.

We have used logical, reasonable, and pragmatic arguments giving several reasons why the game shouldn’t be changed and you and everyone else that want those changes don’t give any reasons why it should be changed other than complaining that D2 was trash or because of bots.

One other thing, there is no reason why you and others have to have changes done to D2R that will ruin the game to other people. Can you really say that you won’t play it if it actually has the same game mechanics as the original? Would that be such a huge letdown for you?

What would be wrong with waiting for Diablo 4? That will also have a community of D2 and D3 players that will expect and even like the changes you and others are in favor of.

Lets say for example that Diablo 4 has personal loot, the same personal loot that others keep talking about like from PoE and not the same way they had it in D3. Why not wait for that game? Nobody, myself included, would care if a successor to D3 was different from D2. And even if people cared they would have no right to expect any differently because it is a new game and therefore should give it a chance before complaining.

People want the Diablo 2 Remaster to be like Diablo 2

How is that wrong? And why do you feel like it is not acceptable?

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Very well said , so let the alpha begin its time for some classic gaming

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I would like to see Diablo 2 revisited in a meaningful way. Staying true the original (i.e. character skills and appearance, Horadric crafting recipes, and all the original content that make it such a memorable game) and new material such as additional quests. Quality of life improvements that don’t significantly alter the original game play would be welcome.
Diablo 2 always felt like a unfinished product needing a conclusion more than simply destroying the World Stone and moving on to the next difficulty level. An elective mode like Diablo 3 would be fun and not difficult to arrange in terms of software.
I hope Blizzard will consider all these points when finalizing the finished remastered and all that Diablo 2 did for their organization.

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Your implication that the only players who desire changes are D3 or POE players is based on false assumptions. I’ve never played POE and gave up on D3 after a few weeks after launch. I’ve been playing D2 on and off since 2001 and I’d welcome some adjustments to class and item balance as would many other OG Diablo 2 players on these forums.

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Its not a false assumption as much as it was a misspoken generalization.

Most players who have been vocal about changing D2R to be less like the original have openly called D2 trash or talked about D3 and PoE being better. Because of this, it is easily understandable why anyone would think that D2 fans want the game to be like the classic and fans of other games are the ones that want to change it.

Nonetheless, I would think its fair to say given your own admission that you haven’t played as much D3 that you might not know exactly what people are trying to change in D2R.

I never specifically said anything against moderate changes like balancing some classes or items. I stated earlier that I am against big changes that would impact the whole way the game is played and experienced. And I think I was more fair in my generalization that people who want huge changes are mostly D3 and PoE players who might not appreciate or love D2 as much as they try to claim

Again to clarify, I am pretty okay with small adjustments, not core game mechanic changes.

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I want changes and i call D3 trash :slight_smile:

I want many core things stay as classic but i want new stuff and flawed parts of D2 improved.

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Then you are in the minority. I never said there weren’t players who wanted changes and hated D3. Only that the most vocal people have been different from you

And even then you aren’t the people I’m talking about. You don’t seem to want the changes I’m even talking about. You are more in favor of D2R taking after the classic game

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The vast majority of players want some form of changes. The survey makes that perfectly clear.

Most of these players want changes because they have played D2 and know exactly what it’s like.

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Oh yes, maybe i am minority. I dont want to change what diablo 2 is, i want to improve what is wrong with it with carefull changing certain things which feel like dev team back then didnt care that much about.

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There’s a difference between the types of changes people are talking about. I already said which type I am against

Also, the survey isn’t a perfect representation of course

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Question is if they are able to coprehend how would changes they want affect the game. I have seen plenty of ideas here on forums and some of them are hilariously bad.

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Yes, I agree, there are different types of changes.

For some, gold pickup is too far, for some charm inventory isn’t a big deal…
everything is pretty subjective what a “core change” is.

Some people think adding extra areas in the game isn’t a core change.

For me, I think people are just too narrow minded of what a “core change” is.

I could care less if gems are stacked, for instance. Many people would hate this and make some nonsensical argument about it.

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I agree, a lot of people who answered the survey might not even understand the changes they are advocating for

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This is true. Some people think the implementation of personal loot effects the economy, for instance.