The problem is D2R shouldn’t have to rely on an outside website for effective trading.
The problem with JSP is that it’s so engrained into D2 that anyone in it will always refuse to leave it due to losing all their forum gold. Which is understandable
Just wish there was a better in game trading system.
I used all my fg and I still ain’t leaving it
JSP, like any growing economy relies on new users flocking to it. And amongst those new users, there’s a few winners, and a whole lot of losers. (when it comes to bartering skills, valuation of items, etc.)
There are three reasons why people use JSP… It’s a centralized trading platform (and a good one at that), it gives you the ability to purchase items with money using an intermediate “currency” or via the sale of game items for the currency, and the ability to have buying power at the start of the ladder with FG earned from past ladders/non-ladder.
If Blizzard were to create an in-game trading platform that facilitates trading like JSP does (or even better), then a massive dent will be made to that influx of new users flocking to JSP. Sure, the ones heavily invested in FG will stick around, but without the influx of new users seeking a better way to trade who might be more tempted to purchase FG to trade for items, they’ll only be able to shuffle the FG between themselves. The head of the snake would be partially severed, and they will slowly die off.
I don’t use JSP because i just don’t like the idea of having to trade outside of the game. I just wish it was implemented in game but oh well.
You should have stopped with these 2 points, but no you had to take a shot at JSP and leave out all the rest. ITs your choice not to use it, yours. The rest of us enjoy an actually effective trading platform since Blizzard cant or wont do their own.
So how do you trade? Game name: Brg Shako Plz, 20 minutes later, Hi, I have Shako, you have 2 Ist?
No just a Um Gul…
Sorry I want Ist’s
“User has left the game”
I used discord to trade for the first time this season and I learned a ton and voila I have an infinity and an enigma
I never took a shot at JSP
Just pointed out users wouldn’t likely want to swap…
But ok
Not to mention I don’t care that I don’t use it, it’s fine, I’m fine.
I’d just rather have something in game.
Man you go defensive quick
Actually I just put Gul 4 Shako
Someone joins or they don’t while I MF
Is it slow…yeah
I don’t mind though
To reiterate…it would be nice if there were better in game features…sheesh
This is exactly why I think runes are dog s*** as a currency. Absolute dog s***. And that’s why I think of the SoJ days as being the original in-game forum gold.
Simplicity is key, and that’s what made SoJ and FG both fun to trade and collect.
Remember the trade channel? The reason that was fun for me as a kid was because you saw a list of items like Shako, Oculus, Shaftstop, etc, and you knew all the person was interested in was SOJ. Nothing else. It was so simple.
IK set? 8 SoJ. Windforce? 20 SoJ.
So I fully understand why people enjoy collecting FG. That’s what makes the game fun. It’s a good end game objective and many D2 activities can be oriented around it; want to collect FG but don’t have items? Offer rushes, create a bumper, etc. It takes D2 to another level.
But I would prefer if Blizzard would create their own in-game FG or currency. If they want to connect it to this forum then they can create an in-game browser that links to the website. Most likely never going to happen.
Actually I went offensive. People on these forums like you just cant make a point without slamming JSP and showing what their real point is about.
If it wasnt about JSP and your bias towards it, you would reference discord, or ebay, or d2io or any of the other third party trade platforms.
It’s just human nature to go to what’s either easier or more profitable. Better in game trading mechanics would keep a large number from bothering with jsp, the ones who like it will continue to use it.
It’s just with a poor lobby and no modern trading mechanics the only viable options are outside the game.
The time I used jsp it was night and day trading, I always sold what was tradeable and saved up for what I needed. Hard to compete with that when your only choices are games that don’t always show and chat that doesn’t always show.
im not sure where you get this idea, jsp doesn’t need new users, obviously the more people who use it the better it is because more items are FT, but most of the D2 fanbase already used jsp. its obviously good to get more users, but it certainly doesn’t remotely rely on new users joining it.
also there is no " a few winners and a lot of losers" again i have no idea where you get this idea.
if you are a new user… you sell an item for FG… if u dont know what its worth… u make a “price check” post… or whats easier is just type that item in the search bar and see what people are buying and selling it for… and ask for that or just under it.
there is no “losers” everyone wins.
and while it may be technically possible to buy items using jsp FG as an intermediate currency… that would be an insanely ineffective use of your money, and buying from an item from an item site is more is about 3-4x cheaper and u don’t need to spend the time to try to find a seller on jsp.
as for having the ability to buy item at the start of the new ladder…
yes while technically true… it means nothing… rushing to 99 means nothing.
and the [rices at the few few days of ladder are absurd… and item that might cost 10-20 fg now, (like shako) , could be well over 1k at the start of ladder…
high runes can fetch over 10k at the start of ladder
if u find a HR day 1-3 jsp allows you to sell that and then wait like 1 month and gear up every character u make…
the only people it punishes are the greedy people who want to spend absurd amount of FG early ladder for an advantage… and im all for punishing them for getting said advantage… but that same thing REWARDS who who are willing to sell their best items early at a premium to those willing to the the absurd early ladder prices.
because anyone who thinks the ladder has, or ever will mean anything is mental.
the start of ladder is about being able to play a new character at lvl 1 when everyone else is too. and to start fresh form nothing.
if blizzard did creature their own trade site like path of diablo did… assuming it was at least near the same level as jsp… i WOULD use it.
( i would probably use both honestly, i would attempt to use blizzard first anyways if the item could be found there)
and yes the game might be the healthiest thing for the game to not have a currency that maintains value, while the item you traded for it depreciates in value…
but its the best we got atm… and with blizzard not even able to have a functional lobby or even in-game chat system and is buying using a terrible half-@$$ed attempt at porting d3’s chat over…
not to mention not making a new “arreat summit” i don’t see them ever making a d2 trade site… it would cost them money and time and effort… and this is blizzard we are talking about… how long has it been since they did any of those things?
I’m not counting on Blizzard solving the problem, at least not any time soon.
There was a need for a better way to trade, D2JSP filled that need, and the owner found a way to make money doing so.
In the end, the bill comes due.
D2jsp help me make ~3000$ 
From what I understand, jsp is not just about diablo right?
If is not, I can undersdtand why ppl use it.
Most ppl play mutiple games so with standard currency (fg), they can easily trade other items for other games and not just diablo.
These would make trading more convenience, one currency mutilple games trading, why not right?
I consider jsp as big scam. Yeah not everyone is scammed there but plenty is. People have to understand that its not made for item trading. Its just byproduct. Primary purpose of jsp is not to provide place for people to trade but to make profit. Its bussiness for owner who feed on weak people who use real money to buy his fake currency. Anyone who trade there helps to keep scam going to prey on more people. To keep bussiness going for a person who is known for bot making. Yes thats right, person who stand behind a lot of cheating in d2.
FG is 100% owned by JSP owner. He lets you use it, but can take it away or keep you from using at at any time on whim. And he done so in past in many cases. I have friends who lost a lot of FG there, because people for some reason belive its somehow safe place to trade. Wrong, its a lot less safer than making trade over discord and trade items in game for example.
If blizzard will make simple trade system in d2r directly in game where you can post item somewhere and make trade, jsp will die. It will die because people will prefer faster safe and easy system in game over going into forum. Sure FG whales will stay but they will struggle without people who actualy sell them stuff.
Show me where I slammed JSP
Because I didnt.
Quote the whole part where I slammed it instead of cherry Picking too
Just couldnt help yourself, have to bring up JSP. If you had referenced “Third Party Trade Sites” in general, that would have been better.
JSP should be the gold standard if the Devs want to build a Trading Platform that the majority would use, and a majority WOULD leave JSP for.
In the early days, I’d trade GW items on jsp for FG then use that FG to trade for items for D2. Cross-platform trade is awesome!!!
You know, with all the coders that blizz has at their disposal … they could EASILY do the same thing and come up with an independant cross-platform trading system.
Still never slammed it, you seem to be offended if anyone brings up JSP no matter what the context based off your forum activity.
Let me make it super easy to understand
I don’t hate JSP
I just don’t like that D2 doesn’t have its own proper in game trading.
The issue that JSP has is that it’s been used for some many years that I understand why people wouldn’t want to get rid of it. As well as it has become engrained into D2. People have a lot of time invested into JSP currency, I wouldn’t want to lose it if I had it either.
I would assume you are heavily invested into JSP to be so instantly triggered about JSP discussion.
I get it.
That being said, D2 does need its own trading system. No one should HAVE to go to outside websites for trading.
If you can’t understand that this isn’t slamming JSP I can’t help you. You’ll always be offended about anyone talking about JSP if that’s the case.
Yeah agreed. Problem is, Blizz has had the ability to do so for years what with all the coders they’ve had in their company. Hell, they could easily make a trading platform not for D2, but for blizz. Wow, D2, D2LoD, D2R, etc … whereas every player for all blizz games could come to. Make their own currency and have cross platform trading. Call it the blizz exchange or some such. Question is, why haven’t they???