D2R and JSP Problem

[Endz-1991]

Blizzard didn’t do it because in the beginning TONS of players would join games called
TRADEZZZ etc
8 players would join

You would trade someone

You would each fill your trade window with what you had to trade

Trading would ensue

IT WORKED… in the beginning anyways

Blizzard had no push to make trading better because there was never originally a problem with it.

Blizzard moves on to D3 and leaves D2 to its own devices (A stable game that didn’t really need more updates from a functionality stand point) yes there were issues, but it was a one time purchase game, it worked well enough, no more money was flowing to continue developing.

Now they needed more revenue so they started to work on D3.

This is fine it makes sense for the time and how the gaming industry worked.

The thing is, D3 didn’t hit the mark with D2 players so they stayed behind and the community did what they could over the next decade to make the game better without actually being able to change in game code.

Setting aside how it came to be
Long story short
JSP is born and is used for trading.

But

Now they remaster D2 so returning players come back.

They new/returning players start at 0ZERO0 assets/currency while players that have stuck around have piles of third party site wealth.

So now you’re stuck in a weird place as blizzard.

1.Make an ingame trading system.
Pros
Ease of use
Available to everyone
Fair
Cons
The player base that kept the game alive would lose their decade or more of aquired wealth. Which if it was me I would be happy/mad that they finally implement something that the community always needed but I would lose everything.

2. Leave the system as is
   Pros
   It is in fact a working system (for the most part) that players seem to like.
   Cons
   If you don’t join it or don’t want to join it you get left in limbo. Which shouldn’t happen because you don’t want to use outside websites.

Extra: when a new ladder starts and the economy is reset

It’s not reset for JSP users, they can buy whatever they want without having to find those initial items necessary to make progressive trades.

It’s 100% an advantage if you use JSP over players that don’t.

[SmokiDyno-2395]

@Endz-1991

The player base that kept the game alive

Wrong Buzzer - Sound Effect

Wrong what kept the game (somewhat) alive were the mods such as Path of Diablo and Project D2, not jsp…

[Unimpressed-11984]

@TheDarkJedi-1970

JSP, like any growing economy relies on new users flocking to it. And amongst those new users, there’s a few winners, and a whole lot of losers. (when it comes to bartering skills, valuation of items, etc.)

There are three reasons why people use JSP… It’s a centralized trading platform (and a good one at that), it gives you the ability to purchase items with money using an intermediate “currency” or via the sale of game items for the currency, and the ability to have buying power at the start of the ladder with FG earned from past ladders/non-ladder.

If Blizzard were to create an in-game trading platform that facilitates trading like JSP does (or even better), then a massive dent will be made to that influx of new users flocking to JSP. Sure, the ones heavily invested in FG will stick around, but without the influx of new users seeking a better way to trade who might be more tempted to purchase FG to trade for items, they’ll only be able to shuffle the FG between themselves. The head of the snake would be partially severed, and they will slowly die off.

they tried that
with the auction house
kind of any way and some didn’t like it

and before you say it
people can trade item for item

most people that trade
do not want to horde items
they like to liquidate
and if someone says gold they would have to be no cap on it
and then you have your same issue
everyone will still sell the gold for cash

so play and trade how you want

[Pycckue-1800]

Forum gold is a fixed currency that keeps its value, ingame items and runes lose value that’s why jsp is the go to trading system. Until blizz makes an ingame system that ties to real life value, jsp will be the go to for trading

[Endz-1991]

I never said jsp kept the game alive

I said the players that stuck around for over a decade kept it alive.

Pretty big difference, try and keep up

[SmokiDyno-2395]

@Endz-1991

The player base that kept the game alive would lose their decade or more of aquired wealth.

Well it sounded like it without mentioning the mods aswell it’s fine.