Community Feedback for Improving Itemization

Sounds good! The Ravens are the gimmick why you would use is. CB helps, but I would assume it still won´t be the weapon of choice to butcher through masses of enemies. I could see this beeing used on an off meta sorc and maybe a Necro (does Summon resist affects ravens?). A Druid would not use it since it is limited to +3 ravens here. Could we additionally add +2-3 to Ravens (Druid only) on top to make it more interessting for Druids? Or is that not working in combination (would result in 3+2-3 to ravens if this is possible). This would be interesting. However this version is much more appealing imho!

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I think the main case for using this weapon is melee magic finding. So I think this weapon needs to rival Ali Baba, so we should give it a static 100% MF. And as this weapon is a quick base with 40% IAS, buffing the Lightning Damage is a must. I think changing Ravens to o-skill is not needed, and would rather buff level and charges as shown below…

Cranebeak
1H Damage: (102-120) To (163-192)
Req Level: 63
Req Strength: 133
Req Dexterity: 54
+240-300% Enhanced Damage
+40% Increased Attack Speed
-25% Target Defense
Adds 1-305 Lightning Damage
20-50% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Level 8 Raven (15 charges)

  • Buffs:
    • Change Lightning Damage to 1-505
    • Change Magic Find to 100%
    • Change Raven Lvl to 32
    • Change Raven Charges to 90
    • Change Required Lvl to 59

Nobody likes charges (except maybe 10 minutes lasting enchant charges) :slight_smile: Make it an oskill, since it can’t be a swap option! Nobody is going to be hurt here :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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True, but we don’t want to change all items to o-skills either, I think keeping charges on some items maintains flavor and closer to original design. We buffed charges on Spellsteel, this item should get same treatment. Just my 2 cents.

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90 Charges seem okay then. And high ravens will do the trick.

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What about summon on attack? High ED and IAS imply that it wouldn’t be used as a caster’s stat stick only.

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Interesting option as well, but then it needs to be viable for mid NM and early hell and would not work late game (what would be kind a sad).

So a „stat stick only“ is more appealing to me tbh. Could imagine several fun builds with high ravens :man_shrugging:

I updated OP based on previous discussion.


Uniques

Azurewrath
1H Damage: (102-114) To (115-129)
Req Level: 85
Req Strength: 25
Req Dexterity: 136
+230-270% Enhanced Damage
+30% Increased Attack Speed
Adds 250-500 Magic Damage
Adds 250-500 Cold Damage
+1 To All Skills
+5-10 To All Attributes
Level 10-13 Sanctuary Aura When Equipped
+3 To Light Radius

  • Buffs:
    • Add Requirements -100%
    • Add 25% Reduced Curse Duration
    • Add +10-15 Life After Each Demon Kill
    • Change Magic Damage to 500-1000
    • Change Cold Damage to 500-1000
    • Change All Skills to +2
    • Change Required Lvl to 75

Arioc’s Needle
2H Damage: (98-115) To (333-392)
Req Level: 81
Req Strength: 155
Req Dexterity: 120
+180-230% Enhanced Damage
+50% Deadly Strike
+394 Poison Damage Over 10 Seconds
+30% Increased Attack Speed
+2-4 To All Skills
Ignore Target’s Defense

  • Buffs:
    • Add -50% Target Defense
    • Add Repair 1 Durability in 5 Seconds
    • Change Required Lvl to 76
    • Remove +394 Poison Damage Over 10 Seconds

Messerschmidt’s Reaver
Champion Axe
2H Damage: 177 To (283-514)
Req Level: 70
Req Strength: 167
Req Dexterity: 59
+200% Enhanced Damage
+2-247 Max Damage (2.5 Per Clvl)
Adds 20-240 Fire Damage
100% Bonus To Attack Rating
+15 To All Attributes

  • Buffs:
    • Add Damage +40-120
    • Add +50% Increased Attack Speed
    • Add +50% Chance Of Open Wounds
    • Change Fire Damage to +250-450
    • Change E. Damage to +250-350%

Ghostflame
1H Damage: (133-156) to (203-238)
Req Level: 66
Req Strength: 55
Req Dexterity: 57
+190-240% Enhanced Damage
Ignore Target’s Defense
+108 Magic Damage
10-15% Mana Stolen Per Hit
+2 To Light Radius
Indestructible
Ethereal

  • Buffs:
    • Change Magic Damage to 1000
    • Change Required Lvl to 56

Cranebeak
1H Damage: (102-120) To (163-192)
Req Level: 63
Req Strength: 133
Req Dexterity: 54
+240-300% Enhanced Damage
+40% Increased Attack Speed
-25% Target Defense
Adds 1-305 Lightning Damage
20-50% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Level 8 Raven (15 charges)

  • Buffs:
    • Change Lightning Damage to 1-505
    • Change Magic Find to 100%
    • Change Raven Lvl to 32
    • Change Raven Charges to 90
    • Change Required Lvl to 59

Bloodtree Stump
2H Damage: 148-249
Req Level: 48
Req Strength: 124
+180-220% Enhanced Damage
+50% Damage To Undead
50% Chance Of Crushing Blow
All Resistances +20
+25 To Strength
+2 To Masteries (Barbarian Only)
+3 To Mace Mastery (Barbarian Only)

  • Buffs:
    • Add +8-12 To Bash (Barbarian Only)
    • Add +7-12 Life After Each Kill

Bing Sz Wang
1H Damage: (29-33) To (69-78)
2H Damage: (59-67) To (140-158)
Req Level: 43
Req Strength: 64
Req Dexterity: 14
+130-160% Enhanced Damage
Adds 50-140 Cold Damage
5% CtC Lvl 3 Frozen Orb On Striking
Freezes Target +2
Requirements -30%
+20 To Strength

  • Buffs:
    • Add +20% Increased Attack Speed
    • Change Required Lvl to 38
    • Change Frozen Orb Lvl to 9 and Cast to 15%

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Trying to update OP, but running into “422 error.” Not sure what that means, I’ll try again later. :man_shrugging:

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So you would leave RCD and All attributes and add -100% req? Anyway fine for me Plague reduces it much more and for the party. So why not… :+1:

Great as discussed! One more (and last :slight_smile: ) idea. It´s kind of a frequent find. And the “only” roll is on ED. What would you think about adding a roll to ravens (as the most important stat)? Maybe lvl 28-32? Would keep people motivated to pick those up, even I you have already one? But not important, bottom line :slight_smile:

I guess we talked about improving LAEK even to 7-12 since Bash is still bugged to have it a bit more defensive direction?

Great :slight_smile: :+1: :+1: :+1:

I guess we talked about reducing mana to -100 to make it less desireable to wear it on your char. We also could add +5 to max poison res (even without the Gul)? The little boys often fall from poison, more than from cold dmg?

I see where youre going. And true clubs are not well represented. Buten opening up this for clubs (easy to aqcuire, and very early) would lower the value of several (newly buffed) Exceptional 2h staves and clubs as well? Using it in a club and combining it with a new Splendor, for sure with a Lidless would be in almost all cases the obviously far better choice (for cold based themes). The limitation to a 2H staff would only affect anything if you found a real good base (niche case, clubs would be not). So do we want that really? If we would restric Barbed clubs (3 OS, lvl 20) to only 2 OS, then only a lvl 42 Tyrant club would do the trick a bit later). If maces apply as well, a lot more early options would be available.

First and your second post or only the first one? :crossed_fingers:

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Hi,

I fear this is not the right topic to discuss this :slight_smile:

Did you try again? Anything to discuss about my last comment?

A happy sunday to everyone! :slight_smile:

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I’m still getting the same error for the first post and can’t update OP. I did submit a ticket to Blizzard support and awaiting on final resolution. They did mention this seems to happen mostly to posts that are months, if not years old.

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Second one as well? Or is it only a problem for the first post?

Just the OP, but I’m thinking we may need to retire this thread and just move to new thread by transferring all content. Waiting on Blizzard support response before proceeding. I think its the age of the thread that is causing issues.

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Okay. So after Blizz responses you just open a new OP and reserve the first 2-3 threads directly. So long we can continue our discussion here! :wink:

I post my prepped post about set tomorrow then. Stay tuned.

But still strange. This is a big discussion but not that old. :man_shrugging:

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So how about those (little) open topics? Clubs on Frostbite etc…

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Still awaiting on a response by Blizzard support, but about Frostbite, I do like the idea of a cold-themed Club Runeword. Gives more value to Tyrant Clubs and Barbed Clubs, which don’t see much use and would probably be used mostly by Druids. I would not expand to maces as they already have plenty of options. IMHO, impact to uniques would be minimal.

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That would probably mean that sorceresses would most probably use a club as well to be able to equip also a new Lidless, new Visceratuant or new Splendor shield. But so be it. It´s a mid lvl item and as long as we keep it significantly below a HotO that would not cause any late game problems or even for LLD. And if you find that gg 3OS 2h staff with sick mods, that might be better in the end. So why not.

What about the others?

Piety -100 mana instead of -50?
Bloodtree Stump with LAEK 7-12 instead of 5-10?
Cranebeak with a roll on the lvl of ravens (28-32) instead of only ED with a roll?

And a polearm we haven´t spoke about yet.

Husoldal Evo
Unique Bec-De-Corbin

Two-Hand Damage: (53-59) To (253-287)
Required Level: 44
Required Strength: 133
Required Dexterity: 91
Durability: 55
Base Weapon Speed: [0]
+160-200% Enhanced Damage
Adds 20-32 Damage
20% Increased Attack Speed
+200-250 To Attack Rating
Prevent Monster Heal
Replenish Life +20

A frequent find, but in the current state just mehhhh. Since we have a good selection of polearms already, I would not go wild on this one. PMH is not usefull for any chars (but for several indeed), but that´s ok, if it remains a just mediocre item.

But I could see us giving it a biiiig boost in IAS from +20 to +80. That way you would hit the second highest BP at 75% for an A2 merc just with the weapon and would only need another +45 to hit the highes BP (Treachery at lvl 43 would do that for e.g.). :running_woman: :running_woman: :running_woman:

If we additionally increase the rep life from +20 (+1.94 life/sec) to +40 (3.9 life a sec, maybe as a roll) that would kind of a merc weapon. :ambulance:

The super high IAS, but not super high dmg output for lvl 44 could be interesting to test with equip with CtC on strinking maybe?

Nothing crazy but now useable imho. Thoughts?

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Agree, these are all good ideas, except Cranebeak should stay charges, but significantly buffed (Spellsteel treatment).

I like your ideas on buffing Husoldal Evo, but would also bump ED slightly. But thinking we should add very big ranges to keep hunt for the perfect one…

Husoldal Evo
2H Damage: (53-59) To (253-287)
Req Level: 44
Req Strength: 133
Req Dexterity: 91
+160-200% Enhanced Damage
Adds 20-32 Damage
20% Increased Attack Speed
+200-250 To Attack Rating
Prevent Monster Heal
Replenish Life +20

  • Buffs:
    • Change IAS to +40-80%
    • Change Replenish Life to +20-40
    • Change E. Damage to +200-240%
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