Community Feedback for Improving Itemization

[CharlesJT-1538]

Updated OP with the following changes below based on feedback above…

Arkaine’s Valor
Balrog Skin
Defense: 1295-1450
Required Level: 85
Required Strength: 165
Durability: 30
+150-180% Enhanced Defense
+1-2 To All Skills
+0-49 To Vitality
30% Faster Hit Recovery
Damage Reduced By 10-15

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add 1-3 Open Sockets
  • Add +180-210% Damage To Demons
  • Add Level 8-12 Might Aura When Equipped
  • Change Required Level from 85 to 80
  • Change +0-49 To Vitality (+0.5 Per Clvl) to +0-149 To Vitality (+1.5 Per Clvl)

The Grandfather
Colossus Blade
One-Hand Damage: (62-87) To (164-474)
Two-Hand Damage: (145-203) To (289-649)
Required Level: 81
Required Strength: 189
Required Dexterity: 110
Sword Class - Fast Attack Speed
+150-250% Enhanced Damage
+2-247 To Maximum Damage
+50% Bonus To Attack Rating
+80 To Life
+20 To All Attributes
Indestructible

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add Ethereal
  • Add 1-3 Open Sockets
  • Add 5% To Experience Gained
  • No Experience Loss Upon Death
  • Add Increase Maximum Life 20%
  • Change Life from +80 to +120
  • Change Required Level from 81 to 75
  • Change Enhanced Damage from +150-250% to +200-300%

Nord’s Tenderizer
Truncheon
One-Hand Damage: (129-150) To (159-184)
Required Level: 68
Required Strength: 88
Required Dexterity: 43
Durability: 55
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
+270-330% Enhanced Damage
+50% Damage to Undead
Adds 205-455 Cold Damage, 5 sec. Duration
Freezes Target +2-4
Cold Absorb 5-15%
+25% Increased Attack Speed
Level 16 Blizzard (12 charges)
+150-180% Bonus To Attack Rating

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add Cannot Be Frozen
  • Add -15% Enemy Cold Resist
  • Add 20% To Cast Level 16 Blizzard On Striking
  • Remove Level 16 Blizzard (12 charges)

Wizardspike
Bone Knife
One-Hand Damage: 23 to 49
Required Level: 61
Required Strength: 38
Required Dexterity: 75
Dagger Class - Very Fast Attack Speed
+2-198 To Mana (Based On Character Level)
50% Faster Cast Rate
Regenerate Mana 15%
Increase Maximum Mana 15%
All Resistances +75
Indestructible

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Change All Resistance from +75 to +95

Grim’s Burning Dead
Grim Scythe
Two-Hand Damage: (72-84) To (168-196)
Required Level: 45
Required Strength: 70
Required Dexterity: 70
Durability: 55
Polearm Class - Fast Attack Speed
+140-180% Enhanced Damage
Adds 131-232 Fire Damage
+3 To Necromancer Skill Levels
-50% Target Defense
+20% Enhanced Defense
+200-250 To Attack Rating
Fire Resist +45%
Requirements -50%
Attacker Takes Damage of 8

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add +2-4 To Raise Skeletal Mage
  • Add +1-3 To Skeleton Mastery
  • Add +1-2 To Summon Resist
  • Add 20% Reanimate As: Skeletal Mage
  • Change Fire Damage from 131-232 to 200-400
  • Change Attack Rating from +200-250 to +300-400

Tearhaunch
Greaves
Defense: 60-63
Required Level: 29
Required Strength: 70
Durability: 24
+60-80% Enhanced Defense
20% Faster Run/Walk
All Resistances +10
+35 Defense
+5 To Dexterity
+5 To Strength
+2 To Vigor (Paladin Only)

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Remove +5 To Dexterity
  • Remove +5 To Strength
  • Change FRW from 20% to 40%
  • Change +2 To Vigor (Paladin Only) to +2 To Vigor

Doomslinger
Repeating Crossbow
Two-Hand Damage: (9-12) To (19-24)
Required Level: 28
Required Strength: 40
Required Dexterity: 50
Crossbow Class - Fast Attack Speed
+60-100% Enhanced Damage
Piercing Attack (35)
30% Increased Attack Speed
+1 To Amazon Skill Levels
+15 To Life

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add +1 To Strafe
  • Add 10% To Cast Level 15 Fire Ball On Striking
  • Change Amazon Skill Levels from +1 to +1-2

Blacktongue
Bastard Sword
One-Hand Damage: (10-11) To (28-30)
Two-Hand Damage: (30-32) To (42-44)
Required Level: 26
Required Strength: 62
Durability: 40
Sword Class - Normal Attack Speed
+50-60% Enhanced Damage
+113 Poison Damage Over 6 Seconds
Prevent Monster Heal
+50 To Attack Rating
Poison Resist +50%

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add +20% Increased Attack Speed
  • Add -5-10% To Enemy Poison Resist
  • Change +113 Poison Damage Over 6 Seconds to 300 Poison Damage Over 3 Seconds

Deathspade
Axe
One-Hand Damage: 14 To (17-18)
Required Level: 9
Required Strength: 32
Durability: 24
Axe Class - Fast Attack Speed
+60-70% Enhanced Damage
+8 To Minimum Damage
15% Bonus to Attack Rating
Hit Blinds Target
+4 points of Mana after each kill

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add 10% Chance Of Deadly Strike

Stoutnail
Spiked Club
One-Hand Damage: 10 To 16
Required Level: 5
Durability: 36
Mace Class - Normal Attack Speed
+100% Enhanced Damage
+50% Damage To Undead
+7 To Vitality
Attacker Takes Damage of 3-10
Magic Damage Reduced By 2

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add +1 To Werewolf
  • Add +1 To Lycanthropy

[Sackett-11374]

@CharlesJT-1538

Wizardspike
Bone Knife
One-Hand Damage: 23 to 49
Required Level: 61
Required Strength: 38
Required Dexterity: 75
Dagger Class - Very Fast Attack Speed
+2-198 To Mana (Based On Character Level)
50% Faster Cast Rate
Regenerate Mana 15%
Increase Maximum Mana 15%
All Resistances +75
Indestructible

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Change All Resistance from +75 to +95

Honestly, if there was anything I’d change about Wizardspike it wouldn’t be adding more resistances, it’d be adding Teleport charges. Level 6 Teleport (52/52). It’d help out the Warcry Barbarians a bit. Might work as an interesting Poison Dagger Necromancer (combine it with Trangs?).

Or maybe +1 to Cyclone Armor as an O-skill? That would appeal more to Sorceresses who prioritize defense over dps.

[CharlesJT-1538]

@Sackett-11374

Honestly, if there was anything I’d change about Wizardspike it wouldn’t be adding more resistances, it’d be adding Teleport charges. Level 6 Teleport (52/52). It’d help out the Warcry Barbarians a bit. Might work as an interesting Poison Dagger Necromancer (combine it with Trangs?).

I really like adding teleport charges to Wizardspike and updated OP accordingly…

Wizardspike
Bone Knife
One-Hand Damage: 23 to 49
Required Level: 61
Required Strength: 38
Required Dexterity: 75
Dagger Class - Very Fast Attack Speed
+2-198 To Mana (Based On Character Level)
50% Faster Cast Rate
Regenerate Mana 15%
Increase Maximum Mana 15%
All Resistances +75
Indestructible

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add Level 6 Teleport (52 charges)

[Who-1516]

Plague should have “Blade Mastery” this single change would barely have an impact on melee paladins, however it would potentially make a poison dagger necromancer possible.
This would also buff a5 mercenaries as well.

I’m sure there’s plenty I overlooked this was really just a quick thought about a niche build

[CharlesJT-1538]

I would like more discussion on the items below to refine the proposed buffs (if necessary)…

Djinn Slayer
Ataghan
One-Hand Damage: (75-88) To (133-156)
Required Level: 65
Required Strength: 138
Required Dexterity: 95
Durability: 22
Sword Class - Very Fast Attack Speed
+190-240% Enhanced Damage
+100-150% Damage To Demons
Adds 250-500 Fire Damage
3-6% Mana Stolen Per Hit
+3-7 Lightning Absorb
+200-300 To Attack Rating Against Demons
Socketed (1-2)

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add Level 8-12 Holy Fire Aura When Equipped

Lightsabre
Phase Blade
One-Hand Damage: (87-103) To (117-135)
Required Level: 58
Required Strength: 25
Required Dexterity: 136
Sword Class - Very Fast Attack Speed
+150-200% Enhanced Damage
Adds 10-30 Damage
Adds 60-120 Magic Damage
Adds 1-200 Lightning Damage
5-7% Mana Stolen Per Hit
5% To Cast Level 14-20 Chain Lightning On Attack
20% Increased Attack Speed
Ignore Target’s Defense
Lightning Absorb 25%
+7 To Light Radius

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add -5-10% To Enemy Lightning Resist
  • Change Chain Lightning Cast from 5% to 15%
  • Change Lightning Damage from 1-200 to 1-350

Swordguard
Executioner Sword
One-Hand Damage: (64-67) To (108-112)
Two-Hand Damage: (126-131) To (216-224)
Required Level: 48
Required Strength: 85
Required Dexterity: 55
Durability: 50
Sword Class - Normal Attack Speed
+170-180% Enhanced Damage
+5-495 Defense (Based On Character Level)
30% Damage Taken Goes To Mana
Requirements -50%
All Resistances +10-20
20% Faster Hit Recovery
20% Increased Chance Of Blocking
+100 Defense vs. Missile
+200 Defense vs. Melee

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add +5 To Concentrate
  • Add +40% Faster Block Rate
  • Add +20% Increased Attack Speed
  • Change Increased Chance of Blocking from 20% to 40%

The Minotaur
Ancient Axe
Two-Hand Damage: (123-149) To (234-285)
Required Level: 45
Required Strength: 125
Durability: 50
Axe Class - Slow Attack Speed
+140-200% Enhanced Damage
Adds 20-30 Damage
Slows Target By 50%
+30% Chance of Crushing Blow
Hit Blinds Target +2
Half Freeze Duration
+15-20 To Strength

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Change Strength from +15-20 to +40
  • Change Enhanced Damage from +140-200% to +200-260%

Crainte Vomir
Espandon
One-Hand Damage: (20-24) To (67-78)
Two-Hand Damage: (46-54) To (104-120)
Required Level: 42
Required Strength: 73
Required Dexterity: 61
Durability: 44
Sword Class - Fast Attack Speed
+160-200% Enhanced Damage
50% Increased Attack Speed
Slows Target By 35%
-70 To Monster Defense Per Hit
20% Faster Run/Walk
Damage Reduced By 10%

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Change FRW from 20% to 40%
  • Change Enhanced Damage from +160-200% to +200-240%

The Atlantean
Ancient Sword
One-Hand Damage: (54-63) To (129-150)
Required Level: 42
Required Strength: 127
Required Dexterity: 88
Durability: 144
Sword Class - Fast Attack Speed
+200-250% Enhanced Damage
+2 To Paladin Skill Levels
50% Bonus To Attack Rating
+75 Defense
+8 To Vitality
+12 To Dexterity
+16 To Strength

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add 1-2 Open Sockets
  • Add 20% To Crushing Blow
  • Change +2 To Paladin Skill Levels to +2 To All Skills

Heart Carver
Rondel
One-Hand Damage: (44-49) To (110-123)
Required Level: 36
Required Strength: 25
Required Dexterity: 58
Durability: 20
Dagger Class - Fast Attack Speed
+190-240% Enhanced Damage
Adds 15-35 Damage
+35% Deadly Strike
Ignores Target’s Defense
+4 To Grim Ward (Barbarian Only)
+4 To Find Item (Barbarian Only)
+4 To Find Potion (Barbarian Only)

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add +2 To Warcries (Barbarian Only)
  • Change Deadly Strike from +35% to +45%
  • Change from +4 to +6 To Grim Ward / Find Item / Find Potion (Barbarian Only)

Warlord’s Trust
Military Axe
Two-Hand Damage: 38 To 93
Required Level: 35
Required Strength: 73
Durability: 30
Axe Class – Fast Attack Speed
+175% Enhanced Damage
Repairs 1 Durability In 4 Seconds
0-49 To Vitality
Replenish Life +20
All Resistances +10
+75 Defense

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Change +0-49 To Vitality (+0.5 Per Clvl) to +0-99 To Vitality (+1.0 Per Clvl)

[Floopay-1401]

I still maintain these 2 suggestions were good ideas:

Item Rebalancing

I think the first and easiest way would be to add a few more multi-item bonuses to some already decent sets. Examples (These are examples, so obviously these could be completely different): Orphan’s Call: Magnus Skin +10% Faster Hit Recover (3 Item Bonus) Guillaume’s Face +150 Attack Rating (3 Item Bonus) Wilheim’s Pride: +2-10 Damage (2 Item Bonus) +2-10 Damage (3 Item Bonus) +2-10 Damage (4 Item Bonus) Whitstan’s Guard: +20 All Resistances (2 Item Bonus) +10 Damage Cannot Be Froz…

Legendary Items

I’ve been mulling this over for awhile and keeping thinking it could be a good one. I know Legendary items exist in Diablo 3 and I’m just…not touching that topic. D3 was fun originally when Inferno was a next level difficulty; but the game just got to be too much of the same for me after that. The concept is simple, we introduce “Legendary Items”. Legendary Items can only be made from Unique Armor and Weapons. So things like Jewels, Rings, and Amulets would be out. Legendary Items are crea…

Thanks,
Floopay

[Nickie-11685]

Eth Grandfather 3 socket, 20%max life

Here’s the Eth Grandfather, 3 sockets, 20%hp, 250 - 300%ED.

Even with Eth and 60% CB from 3 bers it’s pretty weak. Adding somewhere between 45%-55% crushing blow sounds reasonable to me.

[CharlesJT-1538]

@Nickie-11685

Here’s the Eth Grandfather, 3 sockets, 20%hp, 250 - 300%ED.

Even with Eth and 60% CB from 3 bers it’s pretty weak. Adding somewhere between 45%-55% crushing blow sounds reasonable to me.

Thanks for testing! Maybe we did not go far enough to make Grandfather viable. Could you test 3-5 Open Sockets (instead of 1-3)?..

The Grandfather

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add Ethereal
  • Add 3-5 Open Sockets
  • Add 5% To Experience Gained
  • No Experience Loss Upon Death
  • Add Increase Maximum Life 20%
  • Change Life from +80 to +120
  • Change Required Level from 81 to 75
  • Change Enhanced Damage from +150-250% to +200-300%

[Nickie-11685]

gf2

Here’s a second test (Enigma, steel rends, gore riders, highlords). I put in Ber, Ohm, Ohm this time.

I forgot the whole point of the buffs was to find perfect rolls that would have the potential to be just as good or even better than some runewords (for certain builds), which would motivate diehard Barb players to socket HRs just to use it as an aesthetic trophy item (at the very least).

Rolling 1-3 sockets and getting near perfect ED was ridiculously hard (I was using a cube recipe to roll the item).

So therefor, I would suggest that this item roll between 300-400ED, and (or) 35% CB, 1-3 open sockets.

We can see in this video that Grief is multi-purpose and it’s potential with Bezerk just out performs the GF tenfold.

It just makes sense that a two hander elite colosses blade be a power house that has the potential to wipe out P1 monsters with just 1 drive by (on full build).

We can try 3-5 open sockets, but that would be forcing the player to spend 3-5 times the price of a Grief just to come close to its power.

What are your thoughts?

[CharlesJT-1538]

@Nickie-11685

So therefor, I would suggest that this item roll between 300-400ED, and (or) 35% CB, 1-3 open sockets.

We can see in this video that Grief is multi-purpose and it’s potential with Bezerk just out performs the GF tenfold.

It just makes sense that a two hander elite colosses blade be a power house that has the potential to wipe out P1 monsters with just 1 drive by (on full build).

I definitely agree with you that a 2H elite colossus blade should be a power house in its own right. With the proposed buffs below, I added 25% CB and increased ED to +250-350% while keeping 1-3 open sockets. Can you please test to see if it feels right for the GF?..

The Grandfather
Colossus Blade
One-Hand Damage: (62-87) To (164-474)
Two-Hand Damage: (145-203) To (289-649)
Required Level: 81
Required Strength: 189
Required Dexterity: 110
Sword Class - Fast Attack Speed
+150-250% Enhanced Damage
+2-247 To Maximum Damage
+50% Bonus To Attack Rating
+80 To Life
+20 To All Attributes
Indestructible

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add Ethereal
  • Add 1-3 Open Sockets
  • Add 25% Chance Of Crushing Blow
  • Add 5% To Experience Gained
  • No Experience Loss Upon Death
  • Add Increase Maximum Life 15%
  • Change Life from +80 to +120
  • Change Required Level from 81 to 75
  • Change Enhanced Damage from +150-250% to +250-350%

[Nickie-11685]

Grandfather Two and One handed wield vs Grief

That’s more like it. This is in a very balanced state. It’s on par or slightly better than Grief when it comes to Whirlwind.

I tested both dual wielded and single handed. Single handed isn’t bad at all and looks more visually appealing.

It’s worth remembering that you have to roll: Ethereal, 3 sockets, and a good ED which I think is extremely hard to do. If it’s not Ethereal, it’s Charsi’d. If it’s Ethereal and 2 sockets, I guess you would keep it, so that would make finding 3os, eth a godly find.

What do you guys think. Is that a good baseline for some wiggle room?

Either way, this would do great things for the trade economy and add some more of that OG atmosphere back into the game.

[CharlesJT-1538]

@Nickie-11685

That’s more like it. This is in a very balanced state. It’s on par or slightly better than Grief when it comes to Whirlwind.

I tested both dual wielded and single handed. Single handed isn’t bad at all and looks more visually appealing.

It’s worth remembering that you have to roll: Ethereal, 3 sockets, and a good ED which I think is extremely hard to do. If it’s not Ethereal, it’s Charsi’d. If it’s Ethereal and 2 sockets, I guess you would keep it, so that would make finding 3os, eth a godly find.

That’s awesome to hear the proposed buffs to GF would put it in a balanced state. Just wanted to point out that GF would always roll indestructible and ethereal. You would have to find one with 3os and max roll on ED to get godly find. I’ll go ahead and update OP.

[Sackett-11374]

@CharlesJT-1538

Djinn Slayer
Ataghan
One-Hand Damage: (75-88) To (133-156)
Required Level: 65
Required Strength: 138
Required Dexterity: 95
Durability: 22
Sword Class - Very Fast Attack Speed
+190-240% Enhanced Damage
+100-150% Damage To Demons
Adds 250-500 Fire Damage
3-6% Mana Stolen Per Hit
+3-7 Lightning Absorb
+200-300 To Attack Rating Against Demons
Socketed (1-2)

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add Level 8-12 Holy Fire Aura When Equipped

Hmm… Holy Fire Aura is already available on Hand of Justice at roughly the same level, and it’s just better in so many ways that I don’t think this change would help this item see much use. How about instead add -10% Enemy Fire Resistance (which helps support the existing Fire Damage) and add +1 Whirlwind as an O-skill. The Ataghan base brings up images of a whirling dervish type fighter, so I was thinking Whirlwind, which also works well with the mana leech on the sword. It would be something for an Enchantress to use?

@CharlesJT-1538

Lightsabre
Phase Blade
One-Hand Damage: (87-103) To (117-135)
Required Level: 58
Required Strength: 25
Required Dexterity: 136
Sword Class - Very Fast Attack Speed
+150-200% Enhanced Damage
Adds 10-30 Damage
Adds 60-120 Magic Damage
Adds 1-200 Lightning Damage
5-7% Mana Stolen Per Hit
5% To Cast Level 14-20 Chain Lightning On Attack
20% Increased Attack Speed
Ignore Target’s Defense
Lightning Absorb 25%
+7 To Light Radius

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add -5-10% To Enemy Lightning Resist
  • Change Chain Lightning Cast from 5% to 15%
  • Change Lightning Damage from 1-200 to 1-350

I tend to feel Lightsabre is already decent, so I’d rather add to the Jedi feel of it by giving +1 Telekinesis as an O-skill and 20% Chance to Cast Level 5 Slow Missiles when Struck.

@CharlesJT-1538

The Minotaur
Ancient Axe
Two-Hand Damage: (123-149) To (234-285)
Required Level: 45
Required Strength: 125
Durability: 50
Axe Class - Slow Attack Speed
+140-200% Enhanced Damage
Adds 20-30 Damage
Slows Target By 50%
+30% Chance of Crushing Blow
Hit Blinds Target +2
Half Freeze Duration
+15-20 To Strength

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Change Strength from +15-20 to +40
  • Change Enhanced Damage from +140-200% to +200-260%

Would +1 Charge be out of place?

@CharlesJT-1538

Crainte Vomir
Espandon
One-Hand Damage: (20-24) To (67-78)
Two-Hand Damage: (46-54) To (104-120)
Required Level: 42
Required Strength: 73
Required Dexterity: 61
Durability: 44
Sword Class - Fast Attack Speed
+160-200% Enhanced Damage
50% Increased Attack Speed
Slows Target By 35%
-70 To Monster Defense Per Hit
20% Faster Run/Walk
Damage Reduced By 10%

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Change FRW from 20% to 40%
  • Change Enhanced Damage from +160-200% to +200-240%

How about instead of increasing the FRW we give it Grant Level 6 Vigor Aura When Equipped? And instead of increasing the ED give it Grant Level 3 Fanaticism When Equipped? Both of those fit the theme very well (Fear Puking - a reference to military training so hard it makes you puke), and it would make it useful sword for Barbarians and Shapeshifters, but especially for the Bash Barbarian merc. Much less Fanatacism than you get with a Faith bow, and less Vigor than you get with a Harmony bow, but very useful combined and available on a tanky merc instead of the Act 1 rogue. Maybe reduce the ED by 40% so that the ED with Level 3 Fanatacism comes out as ~240%. Not super powerful compared to higher level auras, but useful.

[Nickie-11685]

@CharlesJT-1538

Just wanted to point out that GF would always roll indestructible and ethereal. You would have to find one with 3os and max roll on ED to get godly find.

Ah I see, that’s perfect then.

Next on the list:

Mang’s Song

Tyrael’s Might

The Cranium Basher

[CharlesJT-1538]

@Sackett-11374

add +1 Whirlwind as an O-skill. The Ataghan base brings up images of a whirling dervish type fighter, so I was thinking Whirlwind, which also works well with the mana leech on the sword

@Sackett-11374

I tend to feel Lightsabre is already decent, so I’d rather add to the Jedi feel of it by giving +1 Telekinesis as an O-skill and 20% Chance to Cast Level 5 Slow Missiles when Struck.

I really like your changes to the Lightsabre adding the Jedi feel to the weapon and the whirling dervish type fighter for Djinn Slayer. Overall, excellent changes above!

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Below are the updates to OP. We are making great strides with all the brainstorming and working together as a community, the devs could atleast test these changes in PTR…

The Grandfather
Colossus Blade
One-Hand Damage: (62-87) To (164-474)
Two-Hand Damage: (145-203) To (289-649)
Required Level: 81
Required Strength: 189
Required Dexterity: 110
Sword Class - Fast Attack Speed
+150-250% Enhanced Damage
+2-247 To Maximum Damage
+50% Bonus To Attack Rating
+80 To Life
+20 To All Attributes
Indestructible

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add Ethereal
  • Add 1-3 Open Sockets
  • Add 25% Chance Of Crushing Blow
  • Add 5% To Experience Gained
  • No Experience Loss Upon Death
  • Add Increase Maximum Life 15%
  • Change Life from +80 to +120
  • Change Required Level from 81 to 75
  • Change Enhanced Damage from +150-250% to +250-350%

Djinn Slayer
Ataghan
One-Hand Damage: (75-88) To (133-156)
Required Level: 65
Required Strength: 138
Required Dexterity: 95
Durability: 22
Sword Class - Very Fast Attack Speed
+190-240% Enhanced Damage
+100-150% Damage To Demons
Adds 250-500 Fire Damage
3-6% Mana Stolen Per Hit
+3-7 Lightning Absorb
+200-300 To Attack Rating Against Demons
Socketed (1-2)

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add +1 To Whirlwind
  • Add -10% Enemy Fire Resist

Lightsabre
Phase Blade
One-Hand Damage: (87-103) To (117-135)
Required Level: 58
Required Strength: 25
Required Dexterity: 136
Sword Class - Very Fast Attack Speed
+150-200% Enhanced Damage
Adds 10-30 Damage
Adds 60-120 Magic Damage
Adds 1-200 Lightning Damage
5-7% Mana Stolen Per Hit
5% To Cast Level 14-20 Chain Lightning On Attack
20% Increased Attack Speed
Ignore Target’s Defense
Lightning Absorb 25%
+7 To Light Radius

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add +1 To Telekinesis
  • Add 20% Chance To Cast Level 5 Slow Missiles When Struck

The Minotaur
Ancient Axe
Two-Hand Damage: (123-149) To (234-285)
Required Level: 45
Required Strength: 125
Durability: 50
Axe Class - Slow Attack Speed
+140-200% Enhanced Damage
Adds 20-30 Damage
Slows Target By 50%
+30% Chance of Crushing Blow
Hit Blinds Target +2
Half Freeze Duration
+15-20 To Strength

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add +1 To Charge
  • Change Strength from +15-20 to +40
  • Change Enhanced Damage from +140-200% to +200-260%

Crainte Vomir
Espandon
One-Hand Damage: (20-24) To (67-78)
Two-Hand Damage: (46-54) To (104-120)
Required Level: 42
Required Strength: 73
Required Dexterity: 61
Durability: 44
Sword Class - Fast Attack Speed
+160-200% Enhanced Damage
50% Increased Attack Speed
Slows Target By 35%
-70 To Monster Defense Per Hit
20% Faster Run/Walk
Damage Reduced By 10%

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add Level 6 Vigor Aura When Equipped
  • Add Level 3 Fanaticism Aura When Equipped
  • Change Enhanced Damage from +160-200% to +120-160%

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@Nickie-11685

Ah I see, that’s perfect then.

Next on the list:

Mang’s Song
Tyrael’s Might
The Cranium Basher

As requested, here are the items for review. Can you test out Cranium Basher with proposed changes similar to the GF?

Mang Song’s Lesson
Archon Staff
Two-Hand Damage: 83 to 99
Required Level: 82
Required Strength: 34
Staff Class - Slow Attack Speed
+5 To All Skills
30% Faster Cast Rate
-7-15% To Enemy Lightning Resistance
-7-15% To Enemy Cold Resistance
-7-15% To Enemy Fire Resistance
Regenerate Mana 10%
50% Damage To Undead

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add Increase Max Mana 20%
  • Change All Skills from +5 to +5-7
  • Change Faster Cast Rate from 30% to 50%
  • Change -7-15% To Enemy Cold Resistance to +7-15% To Cold Skill Damage

Tyrael’s Might
Sacred Armor
Defense: 1322-1502
Required Level: 84
Required Strength: None
+120-150% Enhanced Defense
+50-100% Damage To Demons
+20% Faster Run/Walk
+20-30 To Strength
All Resistances +20-30
Cannot Be Frozen
Requirements -100%
Slain Monsters Rest in Peace
Indestructible

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add +2 To All Skills
  • Add +7 To Light Radius
  • Add Damage Reduced By 7%
  • Add Level 7 Teleport (77 charges)
  • Add Level 1-3 Salvation Aura When Equipped
  • Change Enhanced Defense from +120-150% to +200-250%
  • Change All Resistances +20-30 to Poison Length Reduced By 77%
  • Change Damage To Demons from +50-100% to 150-200%

The Cranium Basher
Thunder Maul
Two-Hand Damage: (119-132) To (560-632)
Required Level: 87
Required Strength: 253
Mace Class – Very Slow Attack Speed
200-240% Enhanced Damage
20 To Minimum Damage
50% Damage to Undead
75% Chance Of Crushing Blow
4% To Cast Level 1 Amplify Damage On Striking
20% Increased Attack Speed
All Resistances +25
25 To Strength
Indestructible

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add +50 To Vitality
  • Add 180 To Max Damage
  • Change Required Level from 87 to 80
  • Change Amplify Damage Cast from 4% to 15%
  • Change Increased Attack Speed from 20% to 40%

[Nickie-11685]

@CharlesJT-1538

Mang Song’s Lesson
Archon Staff
Two-Hand Damage: 83 to 99
Required Level: 82
Required Strength: 34
Staff Class - Slow Attack Speed
+5 To All Skills
30% Faster Cast Rate
-7-15% To Enemy Lightning Resistance
-7-15% To Enemy Cold Resistance
-7-15% To Enemy Fire Resistance
Regenerate Mana 10%
50% Damage To Undead

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add Increase Max Mana 20%
  • Change All Skills from +5 to +5-7
  • Change Faster Cast Rate from 30% to 50%
  • Change -7-15% To Enemy Cold Resistance to +7-15% To Cold Skill Damage

What’s the goal for Mang Songs? Death’s Fathom + Spirit actually beats Mang Song by 1K damage while including more resistances, defense, blocking, and 5% faster cast rate.

Aside from +skill what else could it have for a little damage boost?

The staff is a golden skull with red gems for eyes, is there anything it can borrow from Necro to give it some extra fire power?

I think other classes should be encouraged to use it as well, so it’s not just another item for Sorceress.

[Sackett-11374]

@Nickie-11685

What’s the goal for Mang Songs? Death’s Fathom + Spirit actually beats Mang Song by 1K damage while including more resistances, defense, blocking, and 5% faster cast rate.

Aside from +skill what else could it have for a little damage boost?

The staff is a golden skull with red gems for eyes, is there anything it can borrow from Necro to give it some extra fire power?

I think other classes should be encouraged to use it as well, so it’s not just another item for Sorceress.

Well, Mang Song could easily be used by a Fire Druid. The design is focused around Fire/Lightning/Cold damage and as such that it really doesn’t suit an Amazon, Assassin (due to Traps not working with -Enemy Resistances), Barbarian, or Necromancer. I guess something like a Holy Shock Charge Paladin might find it useful, but such off meta builds aren’t going to be common. I think it’s appropriate for this to be focused primarily on the Sorceress and Druid. Both of those characters fit thematically with a magic staff very well.

I don’t think Mang Song should replace Death’s Fathom for Cold Sorceress as best in slot. Considering the multiple damage types supported on the item, I’d suggest it being best in slot for a Hybrid Sorceress build.

If we were to pick anything from the Necromancer spell tree it would be Lower Resist to help out. As an O-skill it’d be too powerful though. Maybe Level 7 Lower Resist charges? That’s -51% so it can break quite a few Immune monsters without the need for a Sunder charm. That then works with the minus Enemy Resistances on the staff. With Sunder charms being available that’s actually not much of a power boost at all considering the rarity of the staff. But a Hybrid Sorceress could get a lot of use out of it, instead of needing to carry multiple Sunder charms. It would also make it a lot more attractive for a Fire Druid.

That would be my suggestion for Mang Song if it still needs a little boost beyond the better Faster Cast and +skills. Add Level 7 Lower Resist (80/80 Charges). That would also make it useful for a Trap Assassin, but probably not enough to be best in slot for them.

I guess if we wanted to target it at a Druid as well as a Sorceress… maybe add -15% to Enemy Physical Resistance in addition to the elemental resistances? That would make it very valuable for a Wind Druid or a Singer Barb, and again improve its use case for a Fire Druid.

[Nickie-11685]

Perfect, I think that’s a great take on it.

Mangs Song's Lesson

Notice the feather strings hanging off. It fits the dark magic theme well.

I also like the -15% physical resist, that would be great.

[CharlesJT-1538]

@Sackett-11374

That would be my suggestion for Mang Song if it still needs a little boost beyond the better Faster Cast and +skills. Add Level 7 Lower Resist (80/80 Charges). That would also make it useful for a Trap Assassin, but probably not enough to be best in slot for them.

I guess if we wanted to target it at a Druid as well as a Sorceress… maybe add -15% to Enemy Physical Resistance in addition to the elemental resistances? That would make it very valuable for a Wind Druid or a Singer Barb, and again improve its use case for a Fire Druid.

@Nickie-11685

I also like the -15% physical resist, that would be great.

Agreed. I like adding -15% to Enemy Physical Resist along with LR charges. How about changing -enemy elemental resist to -15% across the board (except cold obviously) as shown below to make a better use case for Wind Druid, Fire Druid and Singer Barb as mentioned before…

Mang Song’s Lesson
Archon Staff
Two-Hand Damage: 83 to 99
Required Level: 82
Required Strength: 34
Staff Class - Slow Attack Speed
+5 To All Skills
30% Faster Cast Rate
-7-15% To Enemy Lightning Resistance
-7-15% To Enemy Cold Resistance
-7-15% To Enemy Fire Resistance
Regenerate Mana 10%
50% Damage To Undead

• Proposed Buffs:
  • Add Increase Max Mana 20%
  • Add -15% To Enemy Physical Resist
  • Add Level 7 Lower Resist (80 charges)
  • Change All Skills from +5 to +5-7
  • Change Faster Cast from 30% to 50%
  • Change Enemy Lightning/Fire Resist from -7-15% to -15%
  • Change -7-15% To Enemy Cold Resist to +15% To Cold Skill Damage

[Nickie-11685]

Yeah that’s probably a good idea, it’s a hard item to find as it is, there’s no need for it to roll other than the skills.

@Sackett-11374

That would make it very valuable for a Wind Druid or a Singer Barb

I’ve always disliked Singer Barbs for some reason, but if they were to use Mang Songs as a potential BIS weapon, I would have to consider making one myself.