Oh yeah it’s bad “because of reasons”. What reasons you ask? Oh, I’m incapable of articulating them.
Yes, and every post you’ve made here amounts to nothing more than flaming and a violation of the terms of conduct. Since you obviously have nothing to contribute and revel in the P2W aspects of this remake of a decades old video game I’ll stop engaging with your blatant trolling now.
-Signed Turlok, a legit player who is only going to buy one game license for D2R, ever (and probably never another [in]Active-Buzzard product).
Isn’t this ‘flaming’ in its purest form?
Seems you can’t even abide to your own rules.
Still haven’t presented any proof to support your accusations regarding me engaging in exploiting. Because you can’t.
You are so starved for attention I can smell it through the web. But that’s enough feeding for now. Return under your bridge to continue to dwell in your own inadequacy.
This is what liberal does best: always crting out of thin air, flaming everyone as racist but at the same time being so double standards that they ignore their own racism, only because those act serve their needs.
Yes well, I’m still waiting for anyone to post a single reason why /players command on bottle-net would be a bad thing for anyone but multis, botters, streamers, and rmt organizations.
The crushing irony of you saying this about anyone else on this forum. You play less than 1h a day and find an HR every time you log in, right? So many true stories. Odin’s ignore list exists to preserve his own delusion of superiority. He’s a forum lolcow.
Dude…what’s the point in once again necroing this subject? Just search the forum if you want the reasons why /p8 on battlenet is a bad idea.
Nobody is going to entertain you with regurgitating the same old reasons why /p8 would be so bad for the game ecosystem. I know you are going to take snippets of what I am saying and spin them around. It’s ok.
So stop wondering why you receive only ridicule when you bring up this non-subject for the thousand time.
Anyway you are not looking for a debate, but for an echo chamber.
The game list is primarily trade games, cows, and tz runs with very few baal runs. There are some quest games, which are usually ruined by people joining and magic finding quests solely due to the absence of the players command. The longer into the season, the fewer of those games anyways. It would only affect baal run games which are only for exp. TZ and Cow games would not really change because more peole = faster clear and there’s still a loot bonus for players in zone. So no, this is a mostly invalid point.
Botting is a ban offense, so ban the bots. No argument regarding ‘but bots will’ is valid because bots are illegal. Not that I agree with your logic regarding jsp, but apply what you’ve said about fg economy/bots here.
This is a giant assumption. The /players8 options has nothing to do with players who want to play coop and players who want to play solo. Both options offer other incentives aside from drop rates increases.
Bots are already as efficient as they’ll ever be. 8 bot in a single game can do 8 different farms at the same time already. There’s also an assumption that all bots everywhere can suddenly adjust to the /p8 numbers without anything going wrong in the script. Letting players use the /players slider in bnet won’t affect the lobby at all, which is already a ghost town as most groups coordinate on discord and then make a private game.
But it is a valid argument because nothing will be done about botters. And I’m not sure why you felt the need to bring up FG in the subject it is irrelivent to the P8 subject and I don’t need to argue with you about FG/JSP in your thread about the P8 command. There are 50 other threads where I’ve done that plenty enough. Feel free to bump one of those if you want to keep arguing about that there.
And yes I do think that even with the game list not having variety that killing the game list is bad. And no the point is no valid. If people are busy making their own games there is less coop and assistance which is actually common no matter how much you personally raid others games. Plenty of people help others. So the point isn’t invalid.
You can pretend as if they’re not valid concerns. They are. I’m not sure they’re valid enough to stop P8 command in online games, but they’re still valid concerns. Regardless devs already said it isn’t going to happen, not really sure why you think a post would ever change their mind, they dont’ pay attention to the forums anyway.
I mention it not to discuss FG, but to apply the same argument you like to use against people who rail against jsp. Summary , speculation that bots will be more efficient wont effect legit players because item - item trade will be the same. Not agreeing or disagreeing, and have no interest in talking about jsp or fg because I care about neither.
/players would have little to no effect on the game list. Maybe there are fewer baal runs and that is all. Actual coop games would be unaffected, conversely there is more incentive for someone who can slay p8 solo to help someone if they can freely crank their quest games up to p8.
Remember when the OG developers, who were several orders of magnitude more creative and talented than the current ones, said that battle net was unhackable? Remember when current devs said TCP/IP and modding would be supported in D2R?
Them being wrong about something that isn’t possible isn’t the same scenario. The removal of TCP/IP is along the same lines of reasoning that they’re not going to do P8. They think forcing people to play together will somehow force a more solid core I guess? I don’t really get exactly why they decide what they decide, but I have no doubt that the current devs won’t put P8 into the game. Because they’re VERY confident in their awful ideas. If you watch the interview with llama, you can see just how dumb they are.
Oh I was just saying bots will be more efficient, not the fact that I really think it matters. Overall I don’t care about botters/map hackers/RMT players. It doesn’t affect my ability to enjoy the game. My point was solely that that was potential adjustment from this change.
/players will 100% have an affect on the players list that is in fact going to be detrimental to what I think is a decent part of the game. The coop spirit will largely be gone and any sort of teamwork will only be for noobs/low end gear users/ and those who haven’t completed their rush/gear up. I actually like helping out noobs and I know that if I could make P8 games I would be much less likely to every spot a noob game to help in. But I don’t think that is a good enough reason to not do P8 btw. Just taht it is a side effect.
I mean that’s basically what we already have. Simulating the players command by doing separate runs with strangers is not coop.
If anything, they would be more visible because baal runs might be reduced. You’ll only miss them if you yourself stop opening the game list. Effectively the argument against /players command is that people would use the /players command.
Plenty of people, perhaps not me or you. Rush together, level together, quest together. I try to help out those who I can when I can. Separating for MF games isn’t just about player count. It is about individuals wanting their own drops and not having to worry about MR. Quick fingers.
Nah if you’re making your own game on the create game screen you’re not watching the open lobby list unless you’re looking for a trade game. Everyone will be running separate private lobbies 24/7.
They are effective argument. I already said though that I don’t think they’re valid enough to stop it from being implemented. Though I do think that no matter what there is zero chance blizz ever does it.
I use the term ‘friends’ extremely loosely. You can just as easily find a group of 7 other people and cooperate without having to fluff each other’s egos in a friendship. If you can’t at minimum find 7 other self serving individuals interested in an 8 man game, then honestly, you don’t deserve the extra loot in an online scenario.
