2.4.3 hidden change to Whirlwind Damage/AR

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Did your EBOTD gpa reach 4 frames per attack? (Hope so) if yes … with how Much extra IAs ? Just the -60 from the runeword?

May be the outside ias serve as a coeficient to on weapon IAs . We need more testing to find a definitive answer

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come in my game char222 pass 222 and juge your self maybe with 200%ias

for 2 handed is hard to say for sure this feel so much better with 1 hand

i just restart testing after the server crash

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Working atm . And if we can’t reach 4 frames with 2 handers i won’t Even update yo 2.4.3

Can’t stand using 1 handers as a barbarian , i AM hoping to use a 2h eth champion axe with Demonhorn helm (10 ias + 15% IAs Jewel). Nosferatu belt (10 ias) , LOH and warlords ammy…

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Just played my 88 full IK barb I use for act 5 key runs and I didn’t notice much of a difference than before. He’s not gimped or anything, got the job done just as well as before.

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because is 4 month you play with a broken ww :slight_smile: you get use to it lol

they fix the bug . so you gain the dps lost from the bug
but nerf from the new change :slight_smile:

now add ias from you gear you will see

they give you something from one hand to take it back from the other hand lolol

you will see later player will realese accurate number is not good for 2 hand

i ww with my mf gear and hit the target 1 or 2 time this is pretty bad

i feel with 200 ias with a 2 hand 0 base weapon i cap maybe i`m wrong

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juge your self i post 2 video of 1 min one with only 60 ias the old break point and one with 200

i think you need 200ias for 4 frame with a 2 hand with a base of 0 , letting you the room for 0 option to change your gear for pvp or mf , good luck

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Everything from rank 27 on now does less damage per hit. :stuck_out_tongue:

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So about as good as a naked pally still? :stuck_out_tongue: Mean this seriously btw… takes a naked pally about 6m to clear chaos.

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I just log in and check on my IK ww, the AR increase from 8k+ to 11k+ abt close to 3k after patch, which is good.

I also tried a few rounds only, dont see or feel any difference in terms of ias. In fact, I can see is that the kill speed is faster. I think is because of the increase in AR, chance to hit increase.

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i have a car running 50 km oh wow my car just get a good turn up and run 55 km oh that great i`m happy he run too 55 km now i will give a good feedback too the garage they make a good job

oh i just learn this model to suppose to run 75 km before he get broken oh all the time i drive that car before the turn up he use to be broke and now he go too 55km and i just realize i get screw and the garage laugh of me

typical casual feedback :roll_eyes:

thank blizzard to show any number of the basic attack frame table for ww you just change . my barb 2hand ww feel slow and clean a lot slower anyway is a question of time because the number drop and he will see the massive nerf

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I tested out a ww build today, using ebotd warpike, with high lords and LoH for additional ias and then with 2 bad griefs. they were similar in performance on chaos and baal solo runs, but both still worse then zerker or frenzy with the same gear. As player count goes up it’s just worse and worse. All that nice gear and still worse then a naked hammerdin.

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Ww was originaly debuffed at lower levels because of how powerful it is. Now you are penalized for maxing your ww barb. Weaksauce! Why not buff it? I think 16%-25% per level is good.

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I don’t like the new WW. It suffers from the same problem as old WW in the early game: mana. Can’t use it without leech. New WW is just as annoying as old WW if you have bad gear.

Removing all the weird quirks also made the skill boring. You get slowed when frozen now. And you can’t do short whirls to focus your damage to a small area. I dare say that player skill is no longer a factor in how good your whirlwind is.

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Ya i think they messed up with this base attack speed thing. So you have to have 200 ias overall to get it to be as good as before…

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Greetings,
we, barb players, would like to know the new IAS break points for the whirlwind skill or the formula used to calculate them. The matter is of importance because we need to regear already made high level hardcore/PVP/PVM characters accordingly. Specially in hardcore where good gear is scarce the info would be veeeeeeeeeeery welcome.

Try with 140ias for 0 WIAS 2h weapon like balrogblade.

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So the new meta is 6x shael pb? Lets get in on that! What next, ww now procs on hit and on attack?! Patch 2.5, WW now procs Smite on attack and has a 50% chance to cast foh on hit, and 50% chance to cast nova when hit.

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Here lies a barbarian, murdered by Blizz dev team.

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wait so is this more in lines with the non LOD whirlwind? Cuz in vanilla D2 whirlwind just feels so much better than LOD.

I just don’t understand why LOD WW can’t just revert to how it was originally. It’s way more fun. It can’t be that game breaking can it?

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it’s kinda sad.

to experience the WW fantasy one is better off playing cyclone on PoE

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Why make WW a horrid skill? It was never op to begin with. At this rate, you might as well revert WW to classic/pre LOD ww because it is now ruined. Back to basics i say!