For the sake of my own curiosity I’ve begun my own take on the Zero to Hero M+ Challenge.
The Goal: Time a +20 key that isn’t SMBG or COS in 2 weeks starting from a 0 io character.
The Rules:
1: No Raider io or weak auras addon packages. Considered no Boss Mods also, but that’s entering territory of just tedious for the sake of being tedious since most boss mod alerts are covered by Blizzard’s in game announcements anyway.
2: No Gear obtained from raiding. Gear obtained from Timewalking/M+ only, this can include weekly quests.
3: No Gear from Crafting until +16 keys are cleared. Basically no crafting base gear or 405 lvl gear as they make the early stages way too easy (I’ve done something similar to this on druid and if guardian druid can be done easily, anything can).
4: No Guild, No Friends. This toon is disconnected from raider io and is guildless and in incognito mode to btag friends.
5: Only My Key. No using other people’s SMBG/COS keys to farm gear/score/recycle keys. Everything needs to be done legit straight solo queue.
6: I can’t neglect my usual responsibilities. I’m raid leader for a mid mythic guild so I’ll be raiding tuesday through thursday so not much progress will be done on this toon until after that, plus work commitments out of game.
The Character:
I will be playing Monk, Maberu-Eldre’thalas US. As of the starting line it’s decked out in Forbidden Isles gear purely through farming rares and will most likely be using the Annulet. IO is 0 and disconnected from the addon to prevent previous seasons from being seen. I have no spec restrictions in place, but it is most likely I will make my push as Brewmaster as I have had the most practice tanking this season. If it doesn’t break my computer I’ll even stream some of this for recording purposes unless it causes my guildies to try and interfere/help in which case I’ll just skip that part.
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Love the idea. Maybe I should “join” you and try this myself. While I had no issue getting my IO up before, at this stage in the season, it might be a challenge. I am not sure what class I’d try it on. I have a warlock and a paladin that are set to go, but I may try tanking (but not paladin tank, I feel like it gets beaten up so easily).
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raiderio doesn’t rly do much anymore. well especially not for +20s in LFG. there’s M+ score available to everyone to look at in game.
i think that person thinks that if you don’t have raiderio enabled people can’t see your M+ score or something. sadly that ain’t how it works
but ya i mean if ur a ksh player or whatever this isn’t gonna really be a challenge unless it’s on a character you’ve never touched before that you have to get used to
to be clear totally on board with u doing this i think it’s hilarious that you’ll get KSH obviously.
OP is about to prove all the whiners on the forum wrong when they make the claim that other players are the “gatekeepers” holding them back from being successful. Good luck, OP! Keep this thread updated every few days.
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Thanks, I will update here again most likely after my guild’s raid on thursday and again on the weekend after work.
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It makes it so people can’t see you, for example, have a main with 3k+ score and therefor are likely to know the dungeons despite having no score on that character.
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yea i know, but the person in question says they can’t get into groups because of the lack of the addon or having it private even though they’re 2400
basically for lore : someone says they’re stuck at 2500 because they don’t have rio installed and are privated on the website
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They’re cutting off their nose to the spite their face and feed their own victim complex.
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Quick Update here, adding the additional rules.
No Boss Mods or Weakauras.
DPS I invite cannot be higher than the Key Level. Example, a lvl 8 key is in-game io equivalent of 1100 (assuming all dungeons cleared at 8). Additionally, the lvl 20 key I will not invite anyone above 2500 in game score. In an ideal world, all five members will achieve Hero at the same time. Edit, if a dps in queue notes their Main character io is in excess of these values I must acknowledge this and not invite them.
No running with the same pugs more than once. Every group will have four new players. This is to prevent team synergy rising over the course of runs, my druid hit Hero at 402 ilvl with a much stronger group by pushing a 13 key all the way to 20 with the same group.
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Pretty neat. I love when people do these challenges and upload logs/videos etc, you should do a youtube for it. Will you do dps? I have seen a lot of tanks so far and that is cool but I think it would be interesting to see how a dps does it. Would you agree to no gear from crafting whatsoever?
Sorry if these are pushy questions. I just like fun stuff that people start on their own using the game I love.
Also, would you consider recording the times it takes to fill the groups and the key/level? If you are tank I am hoping it is fast but I wonder.
I’m not really youtube editing savvy unfortunately. I’ve streamed gameplay before on twitch but stopped because it was difficult to do on a regular schedule due to work.
I might do dps on a DH or something in the future, something easier to play, windwalker makes my brain hurt
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It is cool that you are inviting people of regular score too, did you come up with that? Also, will you do specific group comps (lust/brez) or will you have to invite the first people that apply?
Keep us updated, i love these kinds of challenges. Wish you a lot of fun
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One of my guildies suggested the Nuzlocke (pokemon challenge) approach where you have to invite the first applicants, but I think my way manages things a bit better. It demonstrates how much you can control with good planning as a group leader, plus if I was given full random groups there is still the chance I end up with people way above the key level.
When I did the 20 rush on Thomae, I invited the first people and to be honest I think it wasn’t that bad. Most of the time, people who apply for a key can probably do that key level or are close to being able to do that key level. But now the minimum filter exists so you could do like first 3 dps and healer in the range 1000-1800 for a 12 for example.
you should play the pally.
Errrr… why do you want to put yourself in hell for 2 weeks for no real gain other than a temporary boost of your ego which would last for a few hours .
I get it that you are bored and want to kill time but there are SO MANY ALTERNATIVES than torture
Sure ,but his 6 rules of engagement - 7 if you include the SMBG or COS part makes it hell
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