Zero changes for BM

But tons of changes for MM and SV. Pack leader remains unusable for BM in keys, and dark ranger is stuck permanently in the middle-low end of all DPS specs. What gives?

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PL is not unusable in keys, what are you smoking?

Pretty sure you’re in the minority with your opinion. Stampede is straight trash in 10+

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PL damage is just as good as DR in M+, and stampede is only trash if you can’t learn to wait until a pack is grouped up before hitting it. But yeah if that’s too hard I guess PL is trash lol

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sadly you dont have PL keys logged and your only dark ranger keys you’re playing are really bad, so probably cant complain about PL damage when you dont do damage.

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The pathing of stampede is buggy as hell and in dungeons like Xenas they go off stairs or miss packs entirely. It’s the least reliable burst dps in the game.

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This is exactly why Packleader is so unplayable.

Tanks move trash or bosses a ton, Z axis = GG, damage is kinda lackluster too.

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I like PL more than DR. Would be nice tho if the stampede actually locked on to its initial target.

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zero issue with it in keys, been blasting meters

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Bro you just changed from DR to PL today and you haven’t even done above a +2 Masaira. I can see you’re stacking crit, is that your secret to good dps or are you just gaslighting me?

stacking crit? im just wearing the best gear ive aquired and follow my sims, if I had more mastery gear and sims tell me to use, sure i’ll wear, but I dont have any. I’ve done multiple keys from today and last night, swapping between PL and DR? Could care less about the gear in Masaira, havent cared to sign up for one.

Enlighten me… if PL is so great then why don’t you just stick with that over DR?

They’re both good, DR is more dps and better defensives, PL burst is also fun, im blasting with both so no issue.

BIS weapon is from Maisara but ok

bis in full mythic track with the rest of your bis pieces maybe? its not needed for my current gear, who cares?

Now you notice that Mikuki is a DR…


In order for it to work, the tank has to stay in it…

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who was talking about Mikuki?

You’re talking about Virile being a DR? O_o

Yeah, DR. This was pulled from Warcraftlogs.

Black Arrow: 18.07%

He still has a point that PL sucks. lol

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Sorry but a pretty rare issue with using stampede on stairs doesn’t make the spec unplayable. Yes it should be fixed, but you can do just as much DPS with PL in M+ as with DR. I’ve been swapping back and forth and see very little variation in overall DPS. I just don’t see how it helps anything to cry that a spec is unusable when it clearly is not.

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Asking for a hero tree ultimate talent to be fixed and usable isnt crying. We just want a fix.

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