Zen pulse or Mists of Life for m+

Wut say you!

Absolutely Zen pulse. This ability does insane damage and healing.

Not only does it do millions of damage over the course of a dungeon (uncapped aoe), making it easier for you to time keys, it can also heal a tank with 600k hp from 5% health to full instantly if you take the echoing pulse and use it correctly.

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I personnally use both wether I play AT or CF.
Assuming you are setting a build and only have 1 point remaining?

Both are good for different purposes. Mists of life improves your cocoon. Even more so if you have crysalis for shorter cocoon. And this is good in all sorts of situations.

Zen pulse is more dmg overall and is only really a good option (for heal or dmg) on big pulls. If you only have 1 point, you’re kinda loosing a good chunck of it if you don’t take echoing reverberation :thinking:

If you just want more dmg, zen pulse is the clear winner here. Otherwise both are good choices :man_shrugging:

You should absolutely be running both because they have synergy with each other. Mists of life applies a free enveloping mist to a target, which will allow your Zen pulse to hit them twice, which is almost always a full heal in big pulls.

Then what if I need to use it to actually save someone. It would be on cooldown. You also have chi-ji which gives you an instant EM.

You chi cocoon the person who is at 1% health about to die, then full heal him with zen pulse. That -is- the save.

Even on bosses? Is ZP even useful for boss environments?

Why spend 3 points for a conditional nuke heal when CF provides that plus bigger/cheaper cleave healing at the cost of one point, compared to three?

I guess if you are running AT you would need to pick it up to supplement ST healing but it still cant be useful on smaller packs, or bosses.

I use both at the same time. Zen Pulse is great for my MW cleave healing build bc I utilize EnVM a lot more. Get that reverb healing and damage.

For damage and a little aoe heal.

A lot of bosses this season have adds. But that’s irrelevant. Zen pulse is your low cd emergency heal option. Mistweaver monks desperately like this kind of tool in their kit, so to have an instant cast quick low cd way to heal someone to full whilst also doing gigantic damage is a blessing. I feel sorry for anyone that doesn’t take it.

Dont. CF provides built in ST nuke healing for one point without the drawback of needing to waste more talent points and doesn’t have the extra conditions that enemies be near whoever you are using it on and needing an env on the target first. The range also 8 yards btw is meh, so you are mostly using it on a tank or melee who arguably should not be taking that much damage to begin with unless they missed a mechanic, in which case CF Soo-Env-Viv or even just TFT+env still saves them )

LC is on a 1:15s cooldown with the talent.
Chi’Ji/Yu’Lon is on a 1 min CD.
SG is on a 40s cd with talent.
TFT combos are on a 24-30 sec cd depending if talented and EF usage
EF for double mastery still works to burst people up
Our 4 set buffs vivify even more making CF even stronger ( better synergy than an outlying talent )
ZP doesnt proc msatery.

Arguably the only reason to take it is to squeeze out more damage or if you don’t run CF and need the ST healing I guess. It’s not “gigantic” damage though and anyone who ran CF in S1 knows we dont need ZP for ST healing or to save someone.

Zen pulse isn’t as impactful as you make it out to be. Not all builds need what it brings.

ZP isnt an aoe heal.

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Have to agree. I didn’t find ZP all that useful in S1 ST healing wise. ( I ran CF all S1 and up till the 25%HP/25%DMG buffs it was overkill for how much ST healing CF could produce. )

I didn’t care to run over 20’s - 21’s though. I’ve heard the damage ZP brings can be decent though.

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I read that wrong. Yeah, for a ST heal it isnt that great on a 30s cooldown.

Big fan of running both of these actually – being able to use LC for RenM+EnvM on dps to cover them without having to put additional abilities into them is very nice for triage. Also running ZP/Echoing Reverb allows you to put a ton of instant ST healing into your target between the EnvM from LC and the Echoing Reverb from ZP. The new interaction between TFT/EnvM is also very fluid for using ZP as a nice big heal for while the tank is gathering and you don’t have/don’t want to use LC. While it may not show very high on overall for healing, it’s a solid amount of healing in critical places which is just as important.

In S1 it contributed to a lot of damage as well, anywhere from 2-6 highest ability depending on the dungeon (being higher in big AOE dungeons) and I’d expect to see the same this season, being higher in dungeons like Brackenhide and Freehold

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This was a great huge QoL change in general for the spec. Im glad it made it to live.

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I copied your spec after I posted this last night. There was a bunch of stuff I wasnt doing right and still managed to do some 16s. I wasnt using EnvM during chi-ji utilizing the 2 instant envM you get from it. I also didnt even notice that TFT was doing breath so i didnt position myself to make the most of it.

I use it more for the damage aoe. In the build I run ZP isn’t needed for single target healing but it’s fun to use on a big pull to get mystic touch applied to everyone while I am running in.

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