Zekvir with BM hunter, many issues

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Zekvir is unkillable right now., especially for BM hunters.

My ilvl is 603, which meets the 600+ requirement to do first tier of Zekvir delve.

I am fully flasked, buffed, Brann is almost level 30 as dmg dealer.

Now the issues I encountered with the fight :

1 – RNG of the add egg spawn is ridiculous as there are many LOS issues which causes downtime on egg.

2 – Intimidation and scatter shot does not interrupt add if it spawns

3 – Emergency salve does not remove the enfeebling spittle debuff the boss cast (if not interrupted). Pre feigning still applies the debuff.

4 – Aspect of the turtle does not block the full damage of the boss slam. It took about 30% of my HP every time when turtle was active. Also activating turtle after does not remove the debuff. Debuff only gets mitigated when turtle is pre-cast.

5 – BM hunter’s damage is way too low right now, that it is not possible to kill the egg before adds spawn. When add spawn, it is a wipe as the first cast of the add is not interruptible and stuns you for 5 secs, which is pretty much a wipe.

6 – The boss cone slam, is not accurate as if you stand outside the edge, you still will get clipped which one-shots you.

7 – Bran does not hold or take any aggro. Everything falls on hunter pet, which is too much damage. Even with a 80% DR of survival of the fittest |(30%) and no hard feelings (50%) as well as 100% uptime of mend pet with wilderness medicine (additional 25% pet healing), the pet still dies a lot.

I am all for challenging content, however saying that 600+ ilvl is adequate to kill Zekvir is a massive understatement. Just a side note:

I have been pushing delves since season 1, and did tier 8’s and higher (up to tier 10 so far), when my ilvl was way below the requirement. Now I am at recommended ilvl for the content and can’t even get close to a kill.

If you killed it on other classes and before the recent hot fixes, then good for you. If you can kill it right now, with solo BM hunter spec at around 600 ilvl, then I take my hat off for you.

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I have experienced all the same issues you are describing while playing shadow priest.

According to recent raid meters/tracking BM hunter is 2nd top dps, I believe the issue is with inconsistent damage received by Zekvir & adds not damage being dealt by a player.

I have deducted over 200+ attempts that it’s not a low damage issue but in fact a damage receiving issue. Damage taken by zekvir and egg spawns are wildly inconsistent. The same is true for damage dealt by Zekvir & adds, the damage is inconsistent ranging from 400k-2.4m each attack. I’ve even recorded 24mil one shots here and there. Silencing, fears, and defensives also do not work as they should in this fight.

The fight cannot be completed currently regardless of gear (I’m 601). Based on damage dealt and received, a player would need close to 700ilvl to “balance the fight”.

Lack of content around this fight somewhat proves these points. Streamers are not completing it, youtube videos are all from pre-hotfix and no new guides/experiences are being posted after the hotfix which means there is a massive issue present.

I’ve heard and read that Blizzard did not intend for this fight to be completed yet but then it should not have been released. Skill should always be the determining factor when completing challenge level content… I don’t know what expectation Blizzard has to complete this is as it simply makes zero sense when considering challenge modes across the industry.

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DPS Brann was massively overnerfed to the point he’s only useful if he can interrupt the right cast.

You’re better off taking Healer Brann after the immense nerfs to his damage output, you’ll have far better sustain.

Really, DPS Brann might as well not attack and you won’t notice the difference with how little damage he does after the hotfix.

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The debuff is a slow and a dot. Posthaste removes it.

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You’re talking about ?? Tier right, not ? Tier.

Best I could do as SP on ?? Tier was 18% but it was wildly inconsistent and required the stars to basically align. ? Tier was fine.

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Yes tier ?? although some issues are present in ? as well.

The damage is survivable so some of the bugs are not as obvious in tier ?.

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With the most recent changes (Brann now taking 80% less damage) I don’t think zekvir is doable at all this week. We’ll see if more gear makes breaking web cocoons consistent but I have my doubts.

Kinda mad I didn’t get it done with the strat I worked out. I’m sure it was possible.

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I’d be interested to see your strat on SP as you got further than I did % wise and to share progress in the coming weeks.

If you’re open to collaborate please add my discord: Dremigor

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honestly the only major issue with the fight it the health on the cocoon. popping all my dps cds i can just barely get the cocoon down some times it pops before i can kill it. most of the damage is avoidable and the poison sucks for classes that cant interrupt. real issue is if you are a not a dps spec which delves were advertised to be done by any spec/class combo just like every other piece of content they have been releasing over the year. 2 man this with a healer the cocoon has over 11m health and this is not designed for heroic/ mythic raid geared players. my brann is 28 and im not sure how much more helpful he will be when hes maxed

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it’s overtuned…period. If tanks and healers can’t do it solo (there’s an achievement for this …so…) then it’s overtuned.

If they want to leave the difficulty in, fine. But stop making everything not responsive to our defensives. The hunter and the Spriest who both posted in here have a point, we have abilities to reflect/cancel/immune certain abilities (like web blast and enfeebling spittle) yet…none of them seem to work…which is a design fail.

Also, if they want to make this a true “mage tower” experience, then the fight needs to CHANGE based on the role you’re playing to keep it fair. You can’t expect tanks and healers to destroy a cocoon that has the same HP as what DPS get …and eeven they can’t pop them all. It’s just dumb.

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Am I the only BM Hunter STILL not able to beat zevkir??

There are few videos online of BM hunter soloing Zevkir??

All of them were months ago, I am IL 632 4 piece, with hero level skardyns and MQM for trinkets.

I do great dps yet after hours and hours and 40k in repairs I cannot kill Zevkir??

I get it a small number of Hunters may not have a problem, but seriously what am I missing here?

I am disgusted with the time I have put into BM Hunter, disgusted and for me its not as easy as just rolling another toon and starting over. This class should and could be so much better and they just cant get it right the way they have done with other classes… and please do not get me started on pvp.

Zevkir?? is going to be my breaking point if I cant get him down.

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Are you running Brann as DPS like the OP was? You’ll need to be running him on healer. You also want to turn off taunt on your pets as he will do absurd damage to them if they acquire aggro, and hold your damage cooldowns&on-use trinkets for when he spawns the eggs. There’s no enrage timer on the boss, the only check you need to meet is bringing the egg down.

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Brann as heal, do not try to tank zekvir with your pet, facetank him and use healing potion from brann to counteract the melees.

Right at the start, maybe hold off using your pet damage abilities to avoid your pet ripping aggro off you. Also send it in manually a second or two after engaging, instead of immediately.

Disengage through zekvir to clear dot, dont disengage any other time.

At 630+ I wouldn’t expect you need any specific abilities or cooldowns to deal with eggs, but even still I would try to make sure I have something for each even if that means staggering / delaying cds.

The only thing that might cause problems specifically for BM is accidentally spamming a bunch of pet only damage and having your pet rip threat from you. If you make sure to hold off a bit with the kill command spam you’ll be fine.

Nothing has changed with the fight since the last week of September.

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