Your RP Alt Characters' Privacy May Be at Risk

Today I’ve learned of a website made for people to find partners for PvP. You can look up a character and see their PvP history, talents, account achievement points and…

Their alts.

If you look up a character, they seem to be added to a database in the website. If another character of that account has been looked up, it somehow knows they’re alts and links them together. Maybe that’s not exactly how it works, but suffice it to say I’ve looked up Altielle and found she has 7 alts conncected to her. All but one haven’t PvPed ever, at all. One is literally level 10.

It even tells you how many times people have looked up that character, Altielle’s been looked up 6 times and me and a friend who was helping me explore this website are only 2 of those 6.

How do I know about this? Guess what the RP community would do with this website in their hands. Yes, my friend told me he found out because another friend of his got stalked by someone using this website.

At the bottom of the website you can see recently looked up characters scrolling through a window. I’ve seen several characters from RP realms with 0 PvP rating getting looked up in this window within a single minute.

You can opt out of having your alts shown, but you have to register with the site and then log into your battle.net account THROUGH THE WEBSITE in order to do this, which is shady as heck.

This presents a serious risk of stalking across alts and other horrible bad-faith actions. It’s already happening, according to my friend. I’m not listing the website on here for that explicit purpose, I don’t want it to be on a public forums for people to find and use. If you want to know what the website is called, contact me in-game and I’ll let you know, though I might ask you a few questions if you’re not someone I recognize lol.

The fact that you’re opted in to have your alts shown by default on this website feels like a massive breach of my privacy and I feel fairly exposed and vulnerable after discovering it now, not going to lie.

All that really needs to be done is to have showing alts be an opt in you log in to do, instead of the other way around. The whole website doesn’t need to be shut down or make sweeping changes. That said, I also think Blizzard should also regulate it so that this can’t happen again, otherwise there’s literally nothing stopping other people from making websites like this one.

But that also requires a bit of exposure and community outreach, so I’m hoping you all can spread the word and help get this ball rolling.

Update:
It is worth noting after several posts that this website and its ability to track alts has its upsides. While stalkers may find you across realms and alts using this tool, other players have been able to use it to track down harassers who are swapping alts often to do said harassment and set them to ignore. And of course, the purpose of the site is to help PvPers find partners and this accomplishes the task.

That said, if you do not wish to be included on this website, Ursuola posted a solution:

Bear in mind the upsides and downsides to this, however, as other websites you have linked to your account may be included and get disrupted. The #WarcraftStory thing in Twitter for instance may no longer work, and Twitch might also break too, which could deny you a chance to earn the Feldrake mount in the upcoming weeks.

In order to clean out alts and characters already listed in the website, be sure to go to each and hit the update button, that will make them disappear.

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I’ve also heard of ppl going through the armory to look up achievements and battle pet names, thankfully its easier to opt of accountwide achievements from showing

That does seem like a concern. Could be worth sending a ticket to Blizzard? Or seeing if someone on the community council might bring it up?

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Maybe I’m dumb but I can’t really navigate the Blizzard support page to figure out sending in tickets. And yeah, people look each other up via armories but I feel like that involves more familiarity with two characters than this. One is like knowing two people and figuring out they’re relatives. The other is like knowing one person then checking all their Facebook posts to find out they have a relative in the city.

It only has 2 alts for me even though I have dozens – take that, stalkers!

That is odd/creepy though.

It’s only got one alt for me - a level 10 mage that I’m not sure even exists anymore lmao.

I’ve had a few people looking me up though, apparently. Weird.

I use it constantly to check bad actors, and it’s a poor website for this as bad actors often are horrible at PVP so it’s hard to know who they are.

If there is a better one, please let me know.

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On the other hand, while not foolproof as many discovered by pointing out the fact that not all alts are recognized, the site can help to discover when people are trying to weasel into circles they aren’t wanted in or to evade notice and continue problematic behaviors. In fact, I know for certain of one actual example of the latter where this site played a very helpful part in making many on the receiving end of the person’s behavior aware of the many alts they were attempting to bamboozle people on.

So it’s a double-edged sword. At least there IS a way to opt out if you want to. It might seem shady, but I’m not aware of anything malicious going on with the site or logging into it with Bnet. I think it just uses publicly available API features like many other sites do to integrate with Bnet logins.

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I agree with Feyahni on it being a double-edged sword. It can be useful to help keep a group safe when Blizzard fails in taking care of harassment/abusive people.

Otherwise you are welcome to look me up and find that I have 500 Loviattars :sweat_smile:

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im sure theres a few guilds who use it to screen new members

I don’t like that you have to log in with your battle.net account. Seems to me that would be something Blizzard would crack down hard on

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All of this. It’s just a massive potential security breach. You’re basically giving this site access to your account.

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The fact that the only alts it shows for me are my warlock that I haven’t played since I got her to SL and the throwaway moon guard checking character I made. lol oh no people might know it’s me

Also this doesn’t bug me because I have intuition and can guess when an alt is someone, like writing styles are hard to avoid falling into. Plus, you can check battle pets.

counts the minutes until I’m exposed as a crap PvPr with no rating and a tendency to rp silly, gimmicky characters

Before these newer forums there was a chrome extension you could use to see people’s alts if I remember correctly so this is nothing new

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Cogshanks.

I can’t remember when it broke for good. It caused a lot of drama for some people. Good and bad.

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I’ve heard about this site before but I’m personally not worried about myself. Yet I can understand the concerns others might have.

Anyway can’t find me on my super secret alts juspions, juspeon, juspeons, jaspion, jackspion, jollypeon, jyuspion, jyuspeon, jellypion and oh I’ve reached my character account limit

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Sarestha, Saresthalt and Saresthagain are totally unrelated, mhm

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Check pvp is meant to be used for looking up peoples rating. It’s often to verify people are not lying when stating their exp and Ilvl before joining rbgs or arena. As a pvp rper this site has also saved me from being stalked. I have one guy who kept making new toons to harass me. With the use of the site I was able to verify it was him and block him. Blizzard did not take any of my reports seriously, so this site helped me. I love this site so please keep in mind it also helps others.

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I see the pendulum can swing both ways. I definitely wouldn’t advocate the website’s removal but I’m very frustrated that I’d have to log into my battle.net account through this website just to disable something I didn’t ask to be a part of to begin with. I don’t want them having my information, especially the email attached to my account because it is connected to my IRL info, including my real name. I find it very risky to do something like that.

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