Many of you will play no matter what, so in that case you can simply say: “I’ll play no matter what”, but I’d be interested see what others conditions to play Shadow lands would be. Here are mine:
pvp vendor (multiple options per piece with different stats)
resil or some equivalent to ensure pvp gear is optimal for pvp.
no pve grinds like heart, azerite, essences, cloak, corruptions
removal of pve trinkets in pvp (like WoD)
I mostly enjoy battlegrounds, and arena. I don’t mind doing some pve content, but i’m not interested in the game if that means i must sludge through hours and hours of PVE content (which I normally don’t have time for) just to be minimally competitive in the content I want to play.
In all honesty, had I known this was what we were in for from the beginning, I wouldn’t have played this expansion at all…however I held out hope each patch, and then the virus hit…and well not much to do. I’ll need those conditions to play next expansion.
What are your thoughts? What do you need to see, or does it not matter for you?
All they’ve said so far is conquest vendor…but we all know that means diddly squat without further explanation and details. As of right now, its definitely a no for me lol.
Conquest vendor is probably gonna be like the Honor vendor. It’s gonna supply inferior lower ilvl gear and the weekly chest is going to be the best source of gear. Good starting point for a character, but probably not the best gear.
the vendor in SL is basically just the weekly cap now except you get to choose the order you get your items in
small victory sure but it’ll still be 30% as good as anything you’ll get in m+
there wont be a pvp stat because they dont want to divide the player base by gear
and the covenant system has already been shown to be a pve daily grind reskin version of legion artifacts with more options
and torghast which is basically horrific visions is how you get the mats to craft legendary items that will likely not be disabled in pvp
i’d go as far as to say if you think maintaining the cloak on alts right now is ‘too much work’ shadowlands will be significantly worse for you than bfa was
This is all likely to be how it turns out. It’s an mmo, there’s always going to be a grind. But we still won’t have corruption, essences, and azerite traits which I think is going to make it better than bfa.
I do hope they do some kind of pvp stat or ilvl scaling system so that PvP gear is best in PvP for the most part.
Going to try it out no matter what - I enjoy this game way too much at the beginning of expansions not to.
Continued arena play throughout is just contingent on whether the game is fun… or rather whether I find I something that’s fun to play in arena. Realistically, I’ll put up with a garbage gearing system or systems grind or poor balance if the payoff is fun arena games.
While this season certainly hasn’t been my favorite, I don’t know that I’ll take a large break like I did in S2/S3 because it’s kind of fun with the pace unless LFG gets to a point where I can’t find games anymore.
WoW arena just hits a spot with the teamwork, coordination, communication, and moment to moment decisions that BRs and MOBAs have shorter moments of spread throughout the game.
Tyrannicus and Yagaar summed up all my requirements. I maintained a steady sub from Wrath through Legion because I enjoyed pvp, minus a break in Legion for other reasons.
BfA is the first expansion I have quit multiple times due to how they handled unrated pvp gearing, which means I have no end game content. If they don’t improve things for players like me in Shadowlands then my playtime will be determined by how repeatable and enjoyable Torghast is.
I predict that, like in BfA, Blizzard will be losing a lot of my money in Shadowlands due to treating unrated pvp players like M+ punching bags.
They already said honor gear and conquest gear will be buyable on vendors. This leads me to believe PvE may be able to get epics faster via M+ grinding, but it all depends how much conquest is awarded weekly.
If PvP gear is BiS in PvP and as easy to obtain as m+ gear that’s step one. Step two is making damage dealing more complex so great players hurt more and bad players tickle. Step three is balancing melee vs ranged mobility.
I’ll play even if only one of these turns out to be true.
