Your Lore Hot-Takes

The fact remains that the Forsaken knew he was a literal devil but willingly worked with him anyway.

So taking away their sense of smell, taste and touch, making them colorblind, warping their minds and trapping them in a body that can still be killed again is “immortality with a goth makeover”? :smirk: And it didn’t happen to every Night Elf they killed.

Weird head canon but okay.

Headcanon? (I’ll admit the one mistake, as some have a minute sense of taste and smell).

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Forsaken#Cuisine
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Forsaken#Biology
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Forsaken#Nature_of_undeath
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Its also not genocide, not every act of war and murder is a genocide.

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Like scarlets may not have caniballised and raised, but their sins of torture and stated goal of genocide are what make them evil, the Iron horde may not have eaten people, but they did torture, consume souls, feed people to the void, practice void based necromancy. The ebon blade have done literally all the same things the forsaken have. This is just a weird attempt to pretend that super specific things are somehow more evil then others, Evil is evil mate

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The Forsaken also tortured and used to have a stated goal of genocide (one more far-reaching than the Scarlets, and the Forsaken came closer to accomplishing theirs). I’m not whitewashing anyone, I’m comparing them (I never said the Ebon Blade had the high ground, and that still doesn’t mean the Forsaken didn’t do it).

Evil is evil, but some are worse than others.

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I want like a 4 panel comic now of Belmont joyfully petting an undead puppy a little too hard and the poor things head accidentally pops off and he has to reattach it. Both of them just look confused at each other for a moment, Belmont leans over, picks him back up, plops its poor head back on, turns it a few times like a screw, and they just got back to where they were.

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My general take has already been said, but I think Warcraft’s story and lore are generally good and anything bad is overstated.

I do think the storytelling in-game needs a lot of work. But the story they are trying to tell is entertaining and good.

I also think retcons are fine and good when used sparingly. And very little that Blizzard has does has really bothered me.

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God that was an honest to god theory a lot of people had at the time because he literally walks into a tower that explodes and then a few scenes later is just there like it’s no big deal.

I forgot about this somehow

I mean a lot of it is very much know what you’re gonna get out of the game.

There’s a case to be made when the game used to do some things better before, and has since slipped, and then there’s some times people seem to want to be ordering Ice Cream from Home Depot

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If they ever bring in the Lightforged from Draenor, Paladin Garrosh is going to step out of the portal and immediately call Thrall a coward.

And I’ll roll my eyes because Garrosh Calling Thrall a weak coward is getting up there with PITIFUL MORTALS in terms of overwrought dialogue lines.

Draenor was merely a setback. We were not prepared for the Lightbound. :dracthyr_crylaugh:

Night elf Immortality doesnt seem to effect physical aging as all the other elves age the same as them so immortality doesnt mean immortality.

Looking back, I realize there’s a few jokes about goths that could be made from our comments.

Huh? I’m confused by this. The Night Elves were immortal in that they didn’t age at all after a certain age, but they also could not die by natural means like disease either. The only way they could die was by basically being killed.

Not to speak for Seti, but what I interpreted them as saying is that with examples of unaging high/blood elves who were alive as far back as the exile of the highborne, it makes the night elf immortality/unaging being lost with Nordrassil kinda a plothole.

Elves long cast away from Nordrassil have held on to their immortality/unaging with no problem. What exactly is special about this “night elf immortality” when we have high elves gaining the same effective trait from the Sunwell, highborne gaining it from sucking on a demon dog, nightborne gaining it from the Nightwell, and whatever the other night elves on the Broken Isles got it from.

It seems all the night elves ever needed was the Well beneath Nordrassil, or some other similar source of magical energy.

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pretty much.

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Unsure of how many of these are actually hot takes but:

  • The faction war is one of the most engaging story lines they can/could do, but Blizzard keeps messing it up, and have poisoned the well there for the foreseeable future.
  • Anduin works better as an eventual Paladin
  • Speaking of him, neither Anduin or Baine are that bad, they just rose to prominence/had their biggest story moments during some of the worst times Story-wise for Blizzard. Neither of them are unsalvageable by any means either.
  • Burning Crusade is up there with Shadowlands as the worst expansion on a story level. They nuked half the Lore roster and destroyed them through mischaracterizations.
  • Kael’thas should have been brought back in the aftermath of Shadowlands.
  • Lor’themar should have taken over as Warchief.
  • Councils for the Horde suck. It should be an Alliance thing purely. Maybe let the Forsaken have theirs.
  • Zul’jin shouldn’t have been villain-batted, and should still be in a leadership position over the Trolls today.
  • (Nuclear Take) WoD was an absolute mess in so many ways, but regardless of all the negatives my fanboy head tells me I would have liked (younger) AU Grom coming over to our universe as the leader of the Mag’har, alongside Yrel.
  • Aethas also gets too much hate.

EDIT: Just realized I said “Blizzard” instead of “Burning Crusade” as one of the worst lore expansions.

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