You dont need to do mythics to get some gear

im ilvl 360 and have done but 1 mythic m+2 for the 1hd mace i got it was a world quest.ilvl 360 is a m+5 to a m+6 level of gear anything more then that isj ust a headache.

mythic +5-mythic +6 is ilvl 355 and ilvl 360
https://www.wowhead.com/mythic-keystones-and-dungeons-guide

should raider io be banned yes but you dont need to do mythics to get some decent gear.
Decked out in warfront armor. Ugh.
If you hit warfronts, buy BoEs, get lucky with some emissary caches / WQs, you can get to a pretty solid iLvl without doing anything that requires real cooperation or skill.

I'm not sure if that's really a good thing, though. Like, it's where most of my gear has come from, but I still like being -good- at the game so I'm like a wolf in scrub's clothing.

I like the ability to do solo content and still progress and advance my character, but I wish it required actual skill.
ilvl 395 warfront gloves, ouchies my bones
11/09/2018 10:31 AMPosted by Assistance
If you hit warfronts, buy BoEs, get lucky with some emissary caches / WQs, you can get to a pretty solid iLvl without doing anything that requires real cooperation or skill.

I'm not sure if that's really a good thing, though. Like, it's where most of my gear has come from, but I still like being -good- at the game so I'm like a wolf in scrub's clothing.

I like the ability to do solo content and still progress and advance my character, but I wish it required actual skill.


i dont buy boe i earned everything i got.
11/09/2018 10:31 AMPosted by Assistance
If you hit warfronts, buy BoEs, get lucky with some emissary caches / WQs, you can get to a pretty solid iLvl without doing anything that requires real cooperation or skill.

I'm not sure if that's really a good thing, though. Like, it's where most of my gear has come from, but I still like being -good- at the game so I'm like a wolf in scrub's clothing.

I like the ability to do solo content and still progress and advance my character, but I wish it required actual skill.


350 gear is average gear. I would love to see a player with 370 gear that got it solely from titanforged warfronts, LFR, and world bosses.
Not one raid or mythic here.

Ilvl should never be considered skill lvl. There are other ways to figure that out. I’ll never queue mythics or cry about not getting into raids. I know my place.

Only reason I like it to continually progress is if Blizzard puts in another solo challenge mode that doesn’t scale. Otherwise, it really is a wash for me.

The Mage Tower challenge crossed 2 styles of play and that’s why we saw so many upset last expansion. It was those with skill versus us collectors that wanted the cool mogs. Those with skill didn’t really need the higher ilvl to get through the challenge yet they had the gear to make it trivial. Us lesser skilled needed every bit of ilvl help and hoped for any and all titanforges to increase our chances at a successful challenge because honestly we just don’t play at the same level of intensity.
11/09/2018 10:35 AMPosted by Thanen
earned

Heh.
I really dont know what your point is. 360 gear is just a low baseline at this point.

You clearly don't care about m+..so why do you care about raider.io?
11/09/2018 10:31 AMPosted by Assistance
If you hit warfronts, buy BoEs, get lucky with some emissary caches / WQs, you can get to a pretty solid iLvl without doing anything that requires real cooperation or skill.

I'm not sure if that's really a good thing, though. Like, it's where most of my gear has come from, but I still like being -good- at the game so I'm like a wolf in scrub's clothing.

I like the ability to do solo content and still progress and advance my character, but I wish it required actual skill.


earned.


Warfront afking = earned.

kek
11/09/2018 10:38 AMPosted by Akston
I really dont know what your point is. 360 gear is just a low baseline at this point.

You clearly don't care about m+..so why do you care about raider.io?


its equal to a mythic +5 to mythic +6 gear
https://www.wowhead.com/mythic-keystones-and-dungeons-guide

im letting people know you dont have to do mythics to get some gear are and you do lfr i dont and you are only 18ilvls higher then me being at ilvl 378 and as you have said i dont raid or do mythics or lfr

11/09/2018 10:29 AMPosted by Mistblossom
Decked out in warfront armor. Ugh.


nothing wrong with getting warfront gear.
11/09/2018 10:35 AMPosted by Thanen
11/09/2018 10:31 AMPosted by Assistance
If you hit warfronts, buy BoEs, get lucky with some emissary caches / WQs, you can get to a pretty solid iLvl without doing anything that requires real cooperation or skill.

I'm not sure if that's really a good thing, though. Like, it's where most of my gear has come from, but I still like being -good- at the game so I'm like a wolf in scrub's clothing.

I like the ability to do solo content and still progress and advance my character, but I wish it required actual skill.


i dont buy boe i earned everything i got.


Yes, you did.

Ignore the hostile comments and Great Job on the titanforging!
360 ilvl isn’t even enough to get in to a decent heroic uldir pug
11/09/2018 10:43 AMPosted by Thanen
11/09/2018 10:38 AMPosted by Akston
I really dont know what your point is. 360 gear is just a low baseline at this point.

You clearly don't care about m+..so why do you care about raider.io?


its equal to a mythic +5 to mythic +6 gear
https://www.wowhead.com/mythic-keystones-and-dungeons-guide

im letting people know you dont have to do mythics to get some gear are and you do lfr i dont and you are only 18ilvls higher then me being at ilvl 378 and as you have said i dont raid or do mythics or lfr

11/09/2018 10:29 AMPosted by Mistblossom
Decked out in warfront armor. Ugh.


nothing wrong with getting warfront gear.


18 ilevels is a lot.
11/09/2018 10:43 AMPosted by Rastlin
11/09/2018 10:35 AMPosted by Thanen
...

i dont buy boe i earned everything i got.


Yes, you did.

Ignore the hostile comments and Great Job on the titanforging!


ty thats wow now rng

11/09/2018 10:37 AMPosted by Dirge
Not one raid or mythic here.

Ilvl should never be considered skill lvl. There are other ways to figure that out. I’ll never queue mythics or cry about not getting into raids. I know my place.

Only reason I like it to continually progress is if Blizzard puts in another solo challenge mode that doesn’t scale. Otherwise, it really is a wash for me.

The Mage Tower challenge crossed 2 styles of play and that’s why we saw so many upset last expansion. It was those with skill versus us collectors that wanted the cool mogs. Those with skill didn’t really need the higher ilvl to get through the challenge yet they had the gear to make it trivial. Us lesser skilled needed every bit of ilvl help and hoped for any and all titanforges to increase our chances at a successful challenge because honestly we just don’t play at the same level of intensity.


nice work i knew i wasnt the only one out there.as far as skill goes you just fight a boss enough to take it down thats not skill to me thats doing it over and over and over again.

there is more skill in pvp then fighting a boss over and over and over and voer again...lol.
M+ isn't a lucrative way to get gear unless you do several a day. I do my +10 or 11 each week and that's it. The box at the end is such a crapshoot that I rarely get anything from it, and the gear is not on par with the effort it takes to accomplish one in time.
I run M+ all the time and have only 360 ilvl

The difference between us is: I carry players like you and dont have a problem with it.

The 1k+ IO players: I have mixed feeling about them and they tend to waste my time as much as they complain about us wasting theirs.
395 gloves hahaha
11/09/2018 10:43 AMPosted by Thanen
11/09/2018 10:38 AMPosted by Akston
I really dont know what your point is. 360 gear is just a low baseline at this point.

You clearly don't care about m+..so why do you care about raider.io?


its equal to a mythic +5 to mythic +6 gear
https://www.wowhead.com/mythic-keystones-and-dungeons-guide

im letting people know you dont have to do mythics to get some gear are and you do lfr i dont and you are only 18ilvls higher then me being at ilvl 378 and as you have said i dont raid or do mythics or lfr

11/09/2018 10:29 AMPosted by Mistblossom
Decked out in warfront armor. Ugh.


nothing wrong with getting warfront gear.


Thats fine. WoW, to me, isn't about gear. Its about accomplishing things. Quick glance, all you ever accomplish is creating threads bashing shaman while not understanding the basics of the class.
11/09/2018 11:08 AMPosted by Beneej
I run M+ all the time and have only 360 ilvl

The difference between us is: I carry players like you and dont have a problem with it.

The 1k+ IO players: I have mixed feeling about them and they tend to waste my time as much as they complain about us wasting theirs.


the difference is i dont care for m+ and i still can get decent gear.

11/09/2018 11:10 AMPosted by Packlo
395 gloves hahaha


and 385 legs rng is great isnt it?....lol.