Yo the AV queue is totally ridiculous

PVP Battlegrounds
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I need some achievements for AV but a “5 min average wait time” turns in to 54+ minutes before I have to log. Can you please fix this where we can auto mercenary or something? I list for DPS, tank and healer and still can’t get in. I’ve played one in 2 days because who has all night to wait for a queue that long to pop? I would like to be able to hop in and run a few after the kids are in bed but jeeze. Fortnite and COD type games are killing you on this area of playability. Fill the AVs with bots or whatever, I don’t care, I just need to play. If you need someone to help you set up your AI + ML w/ state machines for this - hit me up.

P.S. the WG nostalgia is over, give it a lower chance of popping in Random Epic BG please.

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The Horde AV queue has ALWAYS been close to an hour even when Alliance was 5 minutes. On Horde side you queue and then do other stuff and hope it pops before you have to log. Or when you’re out of the room for 5 minutes.

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The queue for RANDOM epic BGs are 5 minutes.

Every 5 minutes, you essentially have a 1 in 4 chance of popping AV. If you don’t pop AV, you “try again” in another 5 minutes.

You just got unlucky, and didn’t pop AV 10 times in a row.

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PVP participation is at an all time low in WOW. Even in the 30+ bracket at a certain time of night on Alliance side there are long queue times.

I’ve never seen that in all the time I’ve played. It’s very sad. Blizzard/Ion have a lot to answer for with regards to PVP.

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well, if I had to take a guess it’s the unmoderated gear system …

whatever the flaws were with the BFA moderated combat system in the open world situation … at same level in instanced BG pvp battlegrounds it was an amazing success. Gear provided advantage, hands down, more gear was good. But it wasn’t roflstomp combat where geared players would just destroy. That was a very very good thing for health of the game.

Today, it’s just a joke. On the map of Gilanus I saw one shadowpriest alone at lighthouse with tons of ally around him and I was like “whelp, he’s dead”. Bring up the map later he’s still there … like minutes, many minutes went buy with him against what 5 to 10 people. I’m sure he was skilled but comon. I looked him up and he was fully kitted out, trinkets and everything, highest pvp gear level. Ok … cool, but no one person should be able to dominate more than half the team essentially by gear.

It makes no sense to people and the lack of participation shows this.

The last time I saw this was the end of vanilla, the gear disparity was ridiculous. One heavy raid gear player could just mow down waves of midgear players. It was stupid then, and it’s stupid now.

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Incorrect. There is a revolving door effect happening in wintergrasp. Players constantly /afking out upon entering WG then those players need to be replaced by the queue system. Then those replacements /afk and the replacements need to be replaced by the queue system…over and over.

There’s a higher chance of wintergrasp then say AV.

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I seldom see players actually leaving at the start of Wintergrasp. This isn’t 9.0, Wintergrasp isn’t unbalanced anymore.

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I totally remember every bracket was on fire in WoD. Completely leveled from lvl 10-max in WoD purely in random battlegrounds because the queue times were so fast in every single bracket.

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Wod brought a LOT of suck to wow, but pvp wasn’t one of the problems

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I mean it is, defense is still easier to win than offence. It’s better than it was, but no where near perfect.

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Tried again tonight, the only pop was a backfill where we lost within 5 minutes. I waited about 30 minutes for another one, even though it said avg 3 mins wait time for an AV.

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CTA weekends need to come back. It was nice to be able to single que for the bg you love and get the random level of reward.

Make them “Classic Call to Arms weekends” where it’s WSG, AB, AV, and maybe even EOTS to throw some sand into the sandwich if need be.

Or maybe divide the bg’s up the way dungeons are?

Classic - Wrath
Cata - Mop
WoD - Current(nobody would do this though since all you would get is Ashran and Seething Shore)

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I’m sitting in the AV queue right now been here for 4 hours 27 minutes

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AV is just not anything like it was. It should either be redesigned or replaced with something different. Half the people dont even know what to do besides run as fast they can to the other side…

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No. They need to change their PVP system to something sensible and people will come flooding back to random bgs. Lack of PVP population is killing AV.

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with the new patch my horde queues pop in 2 minutes a lot of the time. i don’t think this is it

edit: i forgot this was for epic bgs. but they still have been less than 10 minutes for me which is fast for horde.

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You’re right. Pvp participation is rolling along just fine right now.

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Not in all brackets like it used to be.

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It’s fine in the bracket that matters. :blush:

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leveling bgs just give no xp either like it used to. they really are pointless… no one wants to face twinks and not get any xp for it.

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