Yet ANOTHER Story of LFG Vote Kick Abuse with ZERO Report Option and Consequence for Abuser

That can’t be done in combat…
Tell me another one.

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It’s amazing how often these people that spam post these threads get caught in lies isnt it?

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Not abuse. While I wouldn’t have voted yes, it was clearly a very left of bell curve player holding up a group and the 3 others decided he didn’t deserve completion bonus for the run. Expecting people to be kind in a pug environment is asinine.

Trying to protect skillwise bad people by making kicks harder just makes bad morally/socially minded more protected because they too will get the benefits…so now instead of a clueless numpty making a group of 5 effectively 4 it’ll be some donkeyhat intentionally pulling stuff to kill a group or resetting bosses or intentionally doing mechanics wrong (especially if it is like NW 3rd boss where you literally can’t beat the boss until a mechanic that a non tank controls is done right).

And people whining about groups “mindlessly” picking yes need to realize it is JUST AS EASY to say no. A choice got made and while we can agree it was otherwise needlessly mean, it isn’t breaking some kind of rule to decide someone is no longer worthy of being in a group.

And keep in mind it is still way better than the bad old days when the party leader literally had full say and could/would kick people as bosses died without any kind of warning or notice.

:open_mouth:

Step 1: ONLY play with friends and guildmates
Step 2: Enjoy never again being kicked

No one is getting an equip or disenchant notice in the middle of a dungeon.

They know what the pop up is for. And my first reaction is “no,” unless something is evident as a problem.

Easier to just have a 5 second countdown timer on the “yes” button.

Who is going to bother making friends after their first taste of group content sours them on the quality of their fellow players?

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Who plays this game willingly without being told about it by a friend who actively plays? 0.5% who googled “#1 MMORPG” :rofl:

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I’ve never been in a dungeon where someone was vote kicked without being actually afk.

The examples of this happening are extremely exaggerated and few/far between.

I mean I’m sure it’s probably more than that but one friend doesn’t make a 5 man group. That one friend is probably just as desperate for someone to play with and that’s the only reason they would do something evil like suggest their buddy play WoW to begin with. :stuck_out_tongue:

wouldn’t have made an difference they wouldn’t likely have been close enough to get credit for anything anyway. I would have been more interested in kicking the healer though if they didn’t rez them if they were able.

And this is why my advice is invaluable. If you have 1 friend, or no friends, join that Guild and only run with them :smiley:

While rare, it’s also not specifically true.

I remember once me and a friend was doing a TWing dungeon and got in a group of 3 (think this was maybe SL) who told me in party chat we’re doing an optional boss and I said no we are not. Good luck trying and making me.

My friend cleverly vote kicked one of them but typed “stupid tank” figuring it wouldn’t pass…and well wouldn’t you know it we suddenly had a 4 man group that quickly became a 2 man group and then back to a 5 man group who was none the wiser and we moved on.

Should probably read those boxes fully peeps and actually judge a situation fully before just blindly clicking a button.

I don’t know if I agree with this contention, but I can see your point of view. Usually, when a tank royally botches a pull, they’re enough of an adult to go, “Crap, sorry, my bad.” rather than pulling stuff back toward the rest of the group and immediately leaving the dungeon group so they get ported out.

Right. It’s not a common thing, though I have seen tanks pull badly and leave because they freak out. It’s an anxiety thing, I think.

But the trolling of dungeons to see how many people they could grief was oddly popular for a short time. There were even forum posts and conversations in game chat with how proud people were of their behavior.

It was pretty sad. And crazy. :slightly_frowning_face:

The majority of guilds are spam invite guilds that, if you can even get a group, are no better than pugging with.

There isn’t one because Blizzard does not actually enforce any type of player v player griefing. But if you say a single thing in Solo Shuffle you’re getting a ban, near instantly.

Its something complained about heavily, you can straight up queue a shuffle and simply not participate if you get mad, and you can be reported for throwing / purposefully hindering team progress, etc, but nothing happens.

The social contract is there to prevent bad words being said, but the actions of players don’t matter. Fairly reversed from the early 2ks. Actions mean nothing, words mean everything.

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Well we’re in the era of word induced trauma. People take a policy disagreement as seriously as an actual death threat depending upon the source, policy, and target of said threat.

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From what I recall, FF14 also makes it much more difficult to kick. I think there’s a timer to how long the dungeon has to go on before you can even do so? I also remember it being tricky to even find the menu.

Yep, they also reward the group if they’re playing with a “sprout” aka, a new player.

You get extra currency that can be used at a vendor for mog and stuff

WOW really should do something like that. Maybe give out some tenders or something if you run with a new player

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