XP off in 10-19 BG

Twinks are fine when players have enough HP to respond their dps. I remember during Wrath winning against Rogue twinks because gameplay was so much less one dimensional. Your knowledge about the game actually mattered.

When is the last time you did a BG in the 20-29 bracket? Damage is spiky as fu**. Aimed shot/chaos bolt/soul fire = all can 1 shot.

Respond how, have enough time to do a /sigh emote? The lack of toolkit makes it even more disgusting.

The only class who has access to almost full toolkit also happens to have overtuned damage. Dingdingding hunter.

Hunters have been like that since Cata because some idiot removed mana and deadzone. Before that you could level up in BGs. Also we can’t target PvP gear stats because some moron put random stats in all level brackets and vendors are spread across the world. You have to guess which ilevel is available. Its like they don’t give a F.

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One is allowed and the other isn’t, blizzard has gone out of its way to try and stop xpdebuffing whereas vet/f2p has been untouched for years. I figured that would be obvious but anyone that defends xpdebuffing is pretty smooth brained to begin with.

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Twinks are bad, and quite frankly just shows you can’t win at 60 if you’re putting all your effort into this.

What’s even worse is people who stop XP at 48 and go get shadowlands gear to wreck everyone in the 41-49 bracket.

What gets me is how we can watch players via streams on a daily basis completely mocking the TOS. There must be reasons behind the blind eye approach to this one.
Are subs that hard up where stuff (like this+) is being allowed to slide through?
It’s boggling really.

Glaring specs/class/matchmaking issues being put aside. The old honest approach to gearing up in sub 60 brackets sure feels a lot more like the WOW that we all knew and loved.
Less Systems, More Vendors, PVP vendors!, Professions, Dungeons, Quests, Old Raids + are all a lot of fun with Character progression.
Pretty hard to argue this.

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I think blizzard just doesn’t really care about lower level pvp, I have met ppl though who has had suspensions and bans for doing the xpdebuff before though.

I got a reply from Blizzard in regards to this and it seems they do take action in regards to the xp debuff exploit/cheat. They just need to be reported a number of times or a ticket to be directly made for it to be enforced.

I definitely agree the majority of those that participate in this cheat/exploit are definitely smooth brained lol, you can see it in their playstyle and reactions. Definitely missing a few brain cells

Blizzard does NOT take action in regards to this whatsoever . Players have been reported multiple times by ,multiple people for the XP glitch and NOTHING ever happens .Simply because in all honesty BLIZZARD doesn’t care about PVP. I totally get gearing your toon to the best of your ability to play that is something everyone can do but the XP glitchers are their own breed of “special”

Your probably right. I got a response from blizzard saying action was taken but due to privacy yada yada. Most likely one of those “account warnings”. The guys who do use the exploit seriously need to be banned or suspended. Or just fix the bug/exploit.

lol @ caring about lvl 20 bgs

Twinks are fine when they aren’t in premades. Seeding xp off players into bgs would have worked.

Keep in mind if this was a fair fight it would incentivize new players learning the game to carry a subscription and understand the game better. I mean they can wait to pvp when they are geared at 60 but is that what you want to tell a new person trying a game. The people who are dealing with this the most are the people who cancel their sub before they would report issues.

it is a fair fight. everyone has the same access to gear.just like everyone on this forum was a new player at one time and here we still are.

the only thing “unfair” for new players is the sheer amount of game knowledge i have after 15 years.

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Twinking is vital to PvP an easy fix would be to remove the separate brackets so PvP and the game can flourish again. More money is spent on Twinking in this game than anything else.

Glad with chromie time, F2P and a few other ways Twinking has grown massively again.

Personally I’d remove experience from all PvP like the old days which promoted healthier PvP especially in BGs. When you PvP you should be taking time off from your leveling journey to compete against other players. This would help fight AFKers and promote a better BG experience for everyone.

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“If you find yourself in a fair fight…Then your tactics suck.”

No one does PvP in an MMORPG for it to be fair they do it to win and have fun. People want to get top KBs and dominate 1vs 2’s. That is RPG PvP.

That is why Twinking has always been a huge part of PvP and always will. PvP in this game is about finding the advantage.

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make a 50 not a 20. 20’s are the trailor park of pvp.

I only have 20’s. The game is more fun down here. No SL or stupid systems. Way more fun gearing options, gems, trinkets and professional buffs. You get to play the whole game.

I haven’t played any 50’s though but heard that is fun.

Personally I think any 20 F2P account should be in its own bracket ?

Then all you 20 Free to Play accounts can play against each other since that was what the “twink community” claimed when they defend twinking.

But in all seriousness … its not. Its not what twinking is about. Its about crushing lowbies or new players. Its why the xp off brackets immediately died. They dont want to face other twinks where their inability to play is demonstrated. Your defending twinking in the laziest degree (no payment to blizz). At least the 50 bracket pays their monthly fee (not to mention the 50 bracket is 50s only so the twinks can fight each other and not break the bgs).

Most 20 Twinks spend millions of gold on their items. Each slot BiS is easily over 1 million each. Please tell me how they aren’t paying. Many Twinks will also server change to buy items or tokens. They spend 100’s of times more than most max level players, then let their sub run out.

PvP in any RPG is about crushing someone else. I already said that. It’s not supposed to be fair because no fight is supposed to be fair. Remember?

There shouldn’t be ANY separate brackets!! That is what ruined PvP to begin with. Again they should remove experience from PvP so it can become a place for competition. You should be joining a BG to take a break in your leveling to compete against other players.

There is nothing but positives by removing experience from BGs and you remove most bots. Lets make PvP great again like it used to be. Just 1 bracket to compete in any time you wanted.

Blizz created this problem where the best way for me to enjoy the game is let our Sub run out so we can compete in BGs. This is a problem that can be resolved by removing experience from BGs then we can stay subbed and have a plethora of Twinks in every level bracket again and enjoy the game like intended. BGs would flourish again.

Edit - Also remember everyone is a Twink even at max level. You are trying to Min/Max to have an advantage over the other player. What level you Twink at shouldn’t matter whether it’s 20 or 60. It’s the same.

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