Looking for a class to learn and play for the rest of shadowlands. I know both are kinda FOTM, but with all the systems you have to level and what not I’m looking for one for the long term. I just started to pvp half way through BFA, so I’m not sure if one of these is more historically solid through out an expansion.
Thanks for any help
Both are very good for arena. I’d play the one you have the most fun with. You’ll stick with it longer.
play what u want to play
Healers are in higher demand for pvp. Currently mw is underperforming but tuning may come in two to three months. Ww is much stronger than warrior right now. Warrior is a ton of fun to play though.
I think both are overall pretty fun. Just, you know theres a lot of grind to do, but didn’t know if there was one that was historically better throughout an expansion. I know there’s no guarantees.
based off historical data, WW is a much better choice because it’s unlikely to get nerfed to irrelevance. Warrior has, quite a few times, started out overpowered due to toolkit and damage and then ends up getting overnerfed, thus making it obsolete when compared to other melee (See Cata Ruthless season til end of expac), or take a look at the last few seasons of BFA, warr completely outclassed by WW/DH/Assass rogue.
From a PvE perspective, warrior is arguably the worst class in keys atm, both tank and DPS. Highest warrior r.io is like 1700 (it was like 1625 earlier last week), meanwhile mages/druids/hunters/rogues/ww are like 2k-2.1k+. WW PUMPS in keys and has utility for dealing with affixes, ring of peace, touch of death for 1 finishing koolaid man off faster, etc.
In raid arms is the middle of the pack, fury bottom 3, WW pumps way harder
so yeah, I’d go WW.
edit: looks like the top M+ teams did some no life pushing the past 2 days, highest io’s are now almost 2400 meanwhile majority of the best warriors are 1700-1800.
Yeah pretty much that
Warriors niche right now is to be arms in arena with a healer
That’s it
both war and ww are good in almost every season, much more often than they are bad. make your choice based on what you prefer-for me, the most important difference is that for war, positioning is a lot more simple.
This are fake news! The ladder proves that Warrior is stronger: https://i.ibb.co/1qtzypJ/arena-representation.jpg
The upper screen is for NA 3v3 representation, the lower for EU 3v3. Arms is literally the fire mage of melees. Also the top 50 3v3 shows 12 warrior (for EU+NA) and 6 ww monks. So overall, Warrior seems stronger in general!
Depends on your skill-level. Warrior is usually easier to play than ww. At some point, Warrior becomes probably a bit more intense as they have so much utility they can use. WW is a lot harder to play in terms of defense and to make good burst-setups, but their utility is limited, therefore they probably become a bit easier on the very top.
But since the devs usually nerf/buff damage/healing but barely change the core design of a class, warrior is most likely a bit saver to pick currently.
Yeah my biggest thing with WW is just getting deleted in a stun, but they have a ton of defensives.
Are most WW comps set up comps? Or do they have good sustain damage like warriors?
WW is mainly based around setups. Your goal is to chain RSK+FoF+WDP combined with your clones and xuen during stun. But ww setups are easy to counter for people who know what they are doing. So if you mess up your setup, your pressure will decrease rapidly.
As Warrior you don’t have the problem, as your damage is mainly sustained.
Well, yes and no. They have some cooldowns, but their defensive is mainly based around mobility. They often have to run away and kite/los and try to stole some time with selfheal. A warrior is just passively a lot more tanky.
I think warrior sounds like a better class for me! Thank you!