WW Monk or Arcane Mage

Which is great for PvE contents with good survival and low apm and good in both raid M+/raids and open world (rares/mini bosses) and also what conveants/race ?

WW monk is a better choice than Arcane Mage…pretty much in every scenario

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WW monk is quite survivable, especially because of Touch of Karma. But they are relatively high APM because Monks have a 1 second GCD and although they may not have as many hotkeys as a class like a Holy Paladin… they clicky click a lot.

Arcane is lower, but in the grand scheme of things WW is still in the bottom 50% of all DPS classes for APM

Like you said, 1 second GCD but then you have a 4-second FoFs mixed in there to slow everything down.

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ww monks are gods. you can’t go wrong.

Do you want a ranged or a melee?

(I am not up to date with WW monk so can’t comment)

Arcane Mage cov: Kyrian

Arcane Mage can deal some pretty insane burst… but outside of these burst windows is just okay. So this makes them very good at soloing difficult mobs/elites as they can pop all CD’s and destroy. The only downside is not really having a heal and only having shields(there is a conduit which will ice block heal which I do use for this reason).

They have good mobility and a near constant speed buff(especially in old content).

They have good AoE with Arcane Blast but this requires you to be in melee range. As mentioned, they aren’t the most durable.

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Anyway if you do go WW monk, necrolord is the only logical choice, unfortunately. There’s not much room for the others. It’s one of THOSE classes.

That’s a loaded question lol

Low APM outta the two would probably be Arcane Mage maybe??

Survivability would go to Monk

Both are fine in M+ AND RAIDS depending on what level of content you are doing… but WW Monk probably has the upper hand in M+ BUT could be wrong.

Open world both kinda are iffy but Monk is really good there though Arcane can deal some proper dmg.

Covenants just check wowhead I guess depending on the content you plan to do as well as race.

I hope that cov ability dies in a fire and never returns

not class fantasy related at all and works against our mastery in aoe situations…really really dumb ability.

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Yeah me too.

I’ve stuck with Kyrian the whole time on my main and I don’t feel like it has hurt my numbers that bad.

So WW Monk > Arcane Mage for low APM ?

Wind Walker all the way.

This is a good thread that discusses APM. Yes, WW Monk has a higher APM than Arcane Mage. It looks like the WW number is a little off, the link in the OP says 51

So Arcane Mage but also higher dps parse in raid/m+ than WW ?

Unfortunately the last time Arcane was good is…

Luckily it’s a good spec on specifically Anduin but if you wanna get invited to stuff currently your best bet is WW. Both are pretty high apm tho.

Really last time i look at SimC that arcane mage is low

I don’t know why Arcane is good on specifically Anduin, all I know is firedup plays it on that fight and that fight alone. If I had to guess it has to do with burst damage.

Also: never bother with simcraft, it’s not actually useful.

Arcane right now is better than WW, and might stay that way through s4. for DF who knows.

god i love this copium and my shield that is barely bigger than a disc PWS on 1.5m cd.

I play arcane and windwalker but I mainly play as a caster anyway and not much a fan for melee.

Yet no self heal’s though ;( and also rogue’s fav food in PvP)