Probably a post or a few on this already. Since SL the 2 chars I main constnantly have mastery on about 85-90% of the gear. I look for vers if i cant get crit/haste, crit/vers, haste/vers. Not into pvp a ton so i do the hard thing and try to find the gear thats going to put these stats as priority. Other friends that need the mastery are finding vers as their gear. Doesn’t matter what the class is necessarily, just always found it odd that the exact opposite is being pushed over the benefit of the proper. It’s part of some items and can live with that, just seeing most of what is current for the patch doesnt fit the class/spec for the things you need. Looking at raid tier for this patch…pretty much mastery.
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Hit to min needed, Mastery to DR, then…
Haste.
HASTE like a tornado.
My Rogue back in … Cataclysm? Had Haste to the nines.
Was FUN.
Oh love the haste i can get from food buff/trinkets/hero-lust. IQD is amazing when paired with that and procs right for it, feels like I’ll break something taking the haste to 90% and over 100 at times.
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Given the way gearing works between M+, raiding, and PvP I can’t imagine you can’t find a theoretical way to get a solid set with the bulk of the stats you want. If you’re going to cut yourself out of certain forms of content you’ll limit yourself to the options, but if you’re at least doing M+ alongside raiding it does tend to offer a lot of extra variations.
The problem is actually doing that because everything is lottery based and you have to get consistently lucky across all forms of content. In the old days without M+ you had raid gear and whatever it dropped was almost always BiS. Instead now you tend to get focused on where the theoretical BiS item is and when you get some badly itemized item that rolls high you feel dirty using it because, theoretically, there’s a better option out there.
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The problem is that Blizz views all stats as viable for all of us. We min/max on websites outside the game. Blizz doesn’t use that data to put stats on gear.
So here we are, where all of my gear is crit/vers, the two worst stats for me. It wouldn’t be so bad if every single quest didn’t give me the same crit/vers over and over. Variety in secondaries are difficult to come across these days.
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My search fu is weak right now.
There was an old video of a NE Rogue from Cataclysm I think?
Was hasted up a storm.
Anyone know where the video is these days?
I agree. Not being able to trade things because of ilvl makes it tough too. If X class benefits more then I’d gladly give it to them. Couple of work arounds I know of but doesn’t work with everything so 65g +/- is what it gets me.
So much mastery…please make it stop. I’ll be good I promise ;-;
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Yep, I main DH and Hunter. Seems mail has a more balanced approach than leather, possibly plate? Haven’t played my DK in weeks, so plate hasn’t been a concern honestly.
Every dungeon and raid boss has a loot table with the gear that drops there and the stats it has.
There isn’t conspiracy to give you the “wrong” secondary stats.
Give back reforging D:< we even have Valor back.
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Go through the dungeon finder and make a list of what piece of gear has what stats you’re looking for from which dungeon and start farming those until you get what you want 
It’s a pita, especially with drop rates and RNG and luck…but it’s about the best you can do in that situation.
just let me reforge everything to haste. the piece has 4397539485 haste and 12 mastery? let me reforge that mastery to haste, thx.
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I legit do not understand why reforging isn’t just some general NPC in every city that folks can walk up to. The system should be generalized into the base game so that there is little confusion about it. If folks whine and complain about having to look up their stats needed, then let them whine and cry because chances are they are looking things up anyways and nothing changes.
You should be able to reforge any piece of gear as early as you get it. Who is going to care if some level 10 reforges their 2 haste into 1 mastery and 1 haste on their heirloom gear?
Yep, also looking at the dailies, and check the quest rewards. Hard to slot target a raid boss though, unless it drops a non tier piece where my lego is lol.
Well remember, eventually we can turn season 3 gear into tier pieces too, so not all is lost
And yeah, feels bad for raid slots. I’d still stick with dungeons 
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I wish I can give you all this ver/crt gear to you i get ,Geesh ,even if were higher ver I can’t use that much.
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I think most of SL gear is mastery gear… for outlaw mastery is the worst stat you can get and i keep getting mastery from vaults and just plain gear … if i replace other stat with mastery ill lose dps even if gear is higher ilvl
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Yep, already stated I do the extra to find it.
Nope, never said it was a conspiracy. I don’t think in those terms, only commenting on how backwards it is. I’d advocate for reforge.
1/2 the possible combinations contain your best stat.
1/2 contain your worst.
That’s the way it is. I don’t believe you’re getting one particular stat more often than another.
Haste/Mast
Haste/Vers
Haste/Crit
Mast/Vers
Mast/Crit
Crit/Vers