Subs remained stable around 12 million in Wrath peaking at 12 million, then Cata came out and by the end of it the subs dropped 2-3 million, then dropping another 2-3 million in MoP. Subs were down to around 6-7 million by the end up MoP.
I think Blizzard is just making a desperate attempt to try and get Wrath players to stay this time. I’m curious what the current wow subs are and how they will be effected when Blizzard deletes all Wrath servers. I’m thinking they lose 25% of player base just like last time.
What I’m saying is that Wrath is clearly the most popular expansion, I don’t understand why they want to delete it again.
the past is nothing like the present, Current wrath classic aren’t even 0.5% of the amount of players in original
cata being released with changes will be much better than current wrath therefore it will have more chances to increase the player base.
also cata being released means MOP Is coming…mop is a lovely expansion one of the best.
Tbf, TBC was the most popular expansion. The fact that subs peaked in WotLK should tell you something. The game’s growth was on a steep incline all through vanilla and TBC and then hard stopped in wrath. Wrath was when you stopped seeing as many lifers and started seeing more of the people who log on once or twice a week, or the people who play for a few weeks and unsub, then come back months later for another few weeks.
I wish the forums didn’t delete threads after two months or I’d bookmark this just to make a point when history inevitably repeats itself.
Your optimism is refreshing, but definitely not based in reality unless you somehow think you can predict the future.
And before you try to flip my statement, there is legitimate proof in just how well Cata did the first time and I hate to break it to you … but it didn’t do very well.
Cata was the beginning of the end and wow still hasn’t ever fully recovered.
Also i’m not saying that cata is flawless expansion, all i wanted to say is that current wrath classic is falling and nothing will save it So releasing cata is the only way for a chance of salvation & cata looks promising with the new raid systems some surveys showed.
since original wrath had 12million and it looks like that current wrath have ~600k or even less, since logs aren’t prove for unique accounts as everyone raid on multi alts
you can go to curse forge and look at questie downloads in the Files section. That’s why I used for a population metric, since almost everyone uses it, and most people only download it once for their account. It was pretty reliable up until Ulduar when community hardcore picked up.
It is still a good metric for popularity of classic, just not the progression servers anymore.
Scroll to the very bottom of this thread where it says:
“This topic will close 2 months after the last reply.”
I didn’t translate your response as anything other than optimism for the future, which (while refreshing) I disagree with as history will inevitably be repeating itself.
Cata might do well for the first month or two because it’s “new” … but then it’ll take a nosedive, just like it did the first go-round.
Maybe I’m wrong and you’re right, but I have documented proof in just how well Cata did as it was released during a time when Blizzard actually released their subscription count numbers regularly …
that’s good method to know the numbers of players, thx for sharing
also it still can be reliable since most people auto download/update addons.
so last month of questie was 1.1m player and then dropped to 740 then less…looks like either some players deleted the addon and never using it OR they’re quitting so i’ve checked DBM and seems that last version of dbm was downloaded by 550k players
yes it close so u can’t reply but that isn’t a delete, u can still see it/copy it or even quote it on other topics
but ofc we both can be right or wrong, no one can be sure of the unknown future so let time tell but i can see now that many players are dropping from wrath and some guilds are disbanding atm already
this correlation between number of players and wrath vs cata is not correct . the issue was that players grinded the game from vanilla to wrath , following the same gear progression. people got tired and moved on to different ventures . it’s not that cata was worse but the players needed something new than mmo rpg grind
