not you i meant the warlock and bloom
but yeah there is graphs about player numbers up until WoD when they stopped reporting… and they always release the “record sale for x expansion and highest player numbers of x expansion”
no i don’t learn to google…
notice at the end of each expansion after wotlk there is an uptick before next expansion.
People come back for the new content… trying to say anything else is disingenous and you’re wrong.
people are leaving when the new content is about to release for wotlk. the exact opposite.
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Wait, you don’t know how to read a line graph do you? This doesn’t show an uptick right before the next expansion at all. Cata’s tail end only trends down until MoP releases. Already, you are proven wrong.
Moreover, you have no numbers that show whether or not TBCC is gaining subs or losing subs currently, even if that graph did show that your point was true.
This is why I ignored this the first time around. But, you insisted.
It’s a good thing no one, and I mean literally no one, has ever said otherwise.
Content hasn’t released yet though. That’s what you don’t understand. We’re not even in prepatch.
so disingenous
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Again, you’re already proven wrong by the VERY first expansion after Wrath: Cata.
Cata trends downward AND ONLY downward UNTIL MOP releases. This is what the graph shows. You may want to familiarize yourself with what a line graph is and how to read it before trying to cite from it.
so disingenous
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oh you mean people came back at the end of cata for mop…
and then at the end of mop for WoD…
exactly what i was saying
imagine literally proving my point and then trying to say it’s not the case.
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Bloom starting more bull in here after getting gtfo’ed in the other thread I see.
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Moreover, you don’t have the numbers from the end of TBCC to really make any sort of claim that subs are dropping and not rising. Your whole argument is based on misreadings of graphs and conspiracies. There’s nothing really more for me to address there. I don’t think I’m the one being disingenuous here.
That’s not the same and that’s not what the graph shows. The graph shows downward trends for Cata UNTIL MOP releases. It does NOT show people coming back right before MoP.
So using this as a reference is quite silly, considering WRATH hasn’t released yet either. For you to make a comparison that isn’t riddled with fallacies, you’d have to have numbers of sub counts right before MoP and WoD. In the MoP prepatch/WoD prepatch, as that’s where we are at now in TBCC. But you don’t have those numbers.
my dude do you need glasses.
from prepatch to release there was an uptick that started going downhill after launch
because despite your claims people come back before new expansions to prep.
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Ya I agree Bloom since they have no lfg auto finder they should also just scrap this trash retail version they are trying to put in now. I mean people who want that can go play retail right?
That increase doesn’t come until it reaches the green, which indicates the MoP release.
No… that’s not how line graphs work Haraath. The dots are connected by a line but the line itself ISN’T a data point. Only the dots are. This is showing you from one dot to the next, there was an increase. That increase could’ve happened the night before MoP. It could’ve happened THE DAY MoP released. All it shows is that between that final point in Cata and the first point in MoP, subscriptions increased. It gives you ZERO indication of when in that specific time frame that increase occurs. You do not understand your own graph.
bro thats because when the game launched… according to you none of these new players logged into a game they subbed to until the day of release…
This is literally your worst argument, just concede
the dots represent milestones, incase you needed that expained also.
does this suit you better
Unless you wanna make the argument now that Cata and MoP prepatches were 3 months long 
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If new content were out, the time to prepare to jump into it would have already passed.
People have more than enough for flying only because nobody has bothered to level alts to 70. Not sure what reality you live in, but the well-itemized gear I post on the AH nearly always sells.
Except this isn’t the case. Aside from the influx of players re-rolling new toons, many players will re-roll their professions. And you’ve clearly forgotten that a new profession is being introduced. All of these require mats that are gathered outside of Northrend.
You must be the only person in the game who was able to level to 70 before TBCC.
I didn’t realize I was such a special snowflake. But thanks.
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Ah yes, that’s why classic is dead, and alot of TBC realms just got closed. Weird idea of doing just fine you have.
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titles should stay per character, but mounts earned before wotlk should be account wide, as well as pets. I like this idea because it incentivizes and keeps the prestige of current content being character locked.
Oh my goodness. What does logging in have to do with anything? Do you even know what you’re arguing anymore?
Do you even know what my argument is? You’ve said this is it:
Hint: that’s not. That’s never been my argument.
So this is why I ignored your “claim” earlier btw. I’m not interested in debating someone when their own graph proves them wrong. You’ve already bested yourself for me, no further labor required for me.
New content isn’t even close to being out though. That’s what you are misunderstanding. Why would people prepare this early in advance? Not everyone takes the game that seriously.
Citation needed.
To min/maxers that, spoiler, already have enough gold.
Except it absolutely is the case. Do you know how Wrath professions work? You need Northend mats for them.
You mean min/maxxers? That already have this stuff prepared months in advance?
One that we’ve known about for 2 years now. People already have their mats.
The only people that are getting alts ready are min/maxxers, who, as you can probably guess, already have their alts leveled to 70.
Anything else? The idea that regular players are preparing for Wrath is absurd. This has always been a min/max behavior.
of course ignore the second graph that further proves my point.
It must eat you alive to be wrong about things… multiple graphs showing user uptick before the expansion and prepatch because as i said… People come back and prep for the next expansion.
Source?
Source?
at least i can post graphs showing what i’m saying is true.
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According to him, it’s normal for more than half of the servers to collapse. The fact that grouping without RDF is literally so bad that any server that isn’t a mega-server will atrophy and die is totally fine.
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Further proof you have no idea what youre talking about. People have been prepping for new expansions (even the non min/maxers) since the beginning.
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