Wrath Classic Feedback and Decisions

Once again what confuses you about if someone cannot do the role they signed up for?

Or let’s try this from another angle, you think that a prot warrior or resto druid wouldn’t be kicked if they couldn’t perform the role they signed up for?

Thats not what you originally said though. You instantly jumped to the conclusion they could not and that you would kick them based purely by the spec listed in the examples that were given.

So even with rdf you would gatekeep based on spec if it wasnt the “meta” spec for the role.

Looks like rdf doesnt fix anything then, now does it?

What I originally said was that if someone cannot perform the role they signed up for they will be kicked.

And yes RDF does provide a solution for that, you kick them.

It’s exactly the same solution that you use in a non RDF group.

And you have still refused to answer, what do you think would happen to a prot warrior who couldn’t tank or a resto druid who couldn’t heal? You think a group would accept that just because they were in the right spec?

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Which you replied to with

There was no “if they cant perform the role kick them” it was an immediate assumption that they could not and you would kick them.

You jumped to a conclusion of them not being able to perform the role of tank or healer purely based off knowing their spec. Aka you would gatekeep them.

No it was a direct statement that if someone tries to troll the group by queueing up as a role they cannot perform they will be dealt with. Which has nothing to do with spec.

The solution is the same as it is in a non RDF group.

I see you are still refusing to answer,

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The example you were given never stated if they could or could not perform the role. Just that their spec wasnt the “meta” spec for the role.

You really shouldnt be gatekeeping people like that bro.

I would try to find out what the problem was and see if i could fix it within the group before using the last resort of kicking them.

Its why in tbc with heroic dungeons we used CC, kiting, exc. The tank wasnt geared enough to tank the pack without it or the healer wasnt able to keep up with the damage.

But you jumped to the conculsion of kicking. That tells me you would gatekeep without even trying to find another solution.

Right so at the point you determined they could not in fact perform the role they would be kicked.

Yes because TBC dungeons were designed that way and an incorrectly specced tank/healer made the problem apparent much quicker early in TBC.

No I did not, I clearly stated that if they cannot perform their role they will be kicked. A sentiment you agreed on.

We’re not arguing about the conclusion just how quickly we can arrive there. Maybe some people are just better at evaluating the situation than you are?

A conclusion which btw is not different in RDF or non RDF.

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Your first assumption to an arms warrior tank or boomkin healer was to kick them.

You never mentioned anything about “if they cant perform the role” you jumped to a conclusion based purely on their spec. You changed your story only after it was pointed out you were gatekeeping.

It sounds like you should take that up with the person I quoted. As they were the ones who originally implied that someone queueing up as a tank fury or healing boomkin was a problem. The reality is noone is bothering to look at spec until there is a problem.

And I responded with a generic statement that people who are unable to perform their role(or for that matter in general try to troll their group) get kicked in RDF.

A sentiment which you agreed with and acknowledged you yourself will do outside of RDF :stuck_out_tongue:

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You didn’t mention this until you were called out for gatekeeping. Your responce to him just listing the specs was “vote kick”

You never mentioned if they couldnt perform the role, just vote kick. You only started mentioning the “if they cant perform the role” after you got called out for intending to gatekeep people simply because their spec wasnt the meta choice.

And you’ve agreed that you would kick people who can’t perform their roles regardless of RDF or not :slight_smile:

So I guess we both act the same and RDF has nothing to do with it.

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Yet i don’t make that decision based on their spec alone like you did. You were ready to kick with just knowing their spec wasnt meta for the role, i would give them a chance to try, i would try to make it work, and only if it cannot be made to work would i replace them. You on the other hand saw an off meta spec and jumped to the vote kick option, only changing your story after it was pointed out you were gatekeeping.

So just like me when someone demonstrates that they are unable to perform their role you kick them.

Not sure why it upsets you that we both end up at the same destination to the same problem and that neither of those have anything to do with RDF.

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The difference being you looked at their spec and decided to kick them, i would try to make it work before doing so.

The difference being you seem to think that’s what people do when in reality they don’t, they won’t even look at someone’s spec until there’s an issue.

And you’ve already agreed that you will kick problem makers from your group so you can try to justify it as much as you like and pretend you have some moral high ground but at the end of the day you do exactly the same thing anyone else does.

I mean you wanted to gatekeep people just for not having a meta spec for their role, thats the real difference.

Sounds like put a lot more value in spec and boot people based on that than I do.

Still trying to find where I ever said I boot based on solely spec.

Its how you reacted to the mention of arms warrior tank an a boomkin healer. You instantly went for “thats what vote kick is for”

Showing your true colors as a gatekeep.

Well no you just have poor reading comprehension.