WQ ilvl 400 gear

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So if I’m understanding you right you just dont want to lose your ilvl yes?

Then an easy solution would be to keep emmisary at 400 for the rest of the expansion while M+ and raids keep rewarding higher ilvl gear as the expansion goes on.

This makes it so you won’t lose anything and people who enjoy raiding will still feel that their time and effort will be justly rewarded. In this scenario no one loses anything and raiders are not unhappy anymore.

Arguing this isn’t fair just makes you a WQ elitist who wants to flex his titan forged rewards.

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LOL u wish you know that ain’t happening and 8.2 proves it :slight_smile:

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When class sets were a thing you never would have seen someone running around in a 4 set without raiding. Azerite Gear is supposed to replace class sets in a way. Obtaining it from M+ is fine but you should never be able to uptain good pieces from World Quests. At the very least the WQ 400 pieces should drop traits as bad as the ones you get when you start leveling your toon and have 4 rings maximum. It should never be able to replace gear you get from M+ and Raid.

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Or you could always try some self-control and not do content you don’t like and move on.

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To be clear, I never said higher content isn’t faster than waiting on emissaries and other forms of free high quality loot. This character got to 400 ilvl in like 3.5 weeks or something mostly because I ran Mythic+. Replaced my blue trinket sometime last week. I just don’t agree that “faster” should be the only benefit.

Also, yeah, I tend to view Mythic, even +10, as much less stressful and difficult than Heroic progression raiding. I’ll concede that other peoples’ experiences may vary, especially because I raid with a consistent group rather than pugging it with only the highest ilvl people who can link achievements and get kicked if they’re underperforming.

Therefore even Mythic+ is overly rewarding in my book, but I’ll still take advantage of it.

Raiding is the most undervalued form of content right now in terms of rewards, is all (below a Mythic level). Both the WQ/Emissary buffs and Mythic+ contribute to that.

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The person in question was refuting the statements that “BoD is irrelevant content”. It was a valid argument to make.
Heck you can even get AotC/CE until 2 weeks after 8.2 is released if that makes any sense to anyone.

It’s the same situation as Trial of Valor I agree, and that also didn’t make Emerald Nightmare irrelevant even whilst having actual useable gear.

People saying “Well X raid is irrelevant anyway” is using false logic for their argument.
It’s current content. If anything they are right, it’s becoming mostly irrelevant because you can get equal gear from trivial content.

World Quest gear however from day 1 will be able to be upgraded to 430 ilvl, heroic equivalent. So trivial content is realistically still rewarding Heroic equivalent rewards.
However I will add that I prefer the upgrade system over simply just handing over pieces. So it’s at least a step in the right direction, it’s reasonable progression.

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This is such an extreme stretch as to be deliberately misleading.

Go quick grab your insta upgraded benthic gear if it’s such an amazingly overrewarding system. You know it’s not, yet you need to try to control the narrative that it’s going to be fast, easy heroic gear for casual scrubs.

In fact, I’d guess you hardly play the game at all outside of raiding and an occasional mythic plus. You have no intention of investing the number of hours in the game that it would take to utilize that system.

So who’s lazy? You, or casuals who invest 10 times the hours in the game that you do?

This “I only play 5 hours a week but I deserve lots better stuff for being gud, but keep casuals from getting gear they don’t deserve because it makes me feel bad” thing is getting really old.

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What are you talking about? You have to do more than WQ to get to ilevel 400.

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AOO gives 400 az gear now or 395 in other slots (non az) if im not mistaken.

OP, u can get 1 400 ilvl item from completing the Darkshore wf quest when it is open on ur faction

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Ummm…I said “will”. Is it possible to be upgraded from day 1? Yes. That is all I said. I never said fast, I never said instant.

It’s your choice to read into that how you would like.
You also deliberately chose to omit where I said “I prefer the upgrade system” to assist your narrative.

How is it more misleading than the response I was replying to of “WQs gear will be maxed out at 410, while raid gear on the other hand will be 445”?

Do WQs in 8.2 give you the ability to get heroic equivalent gear without doing any other content? Yes. Yes they do.

Uninformed assumptions.

No one even said anything about laziness? Your entire post is subjective conjecture.
You can’t just make up things that were said just because you decided to get your jimmies rustled.

Also who is more casual? Who determines that? To use your example of someone playing 5 hours and the other person playing 10x more ie 50 hours.
I would argue that the person who puts in more hours than a full time job is not as casual as the person who puts in 5 hours.

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not my issue if you rolled the wrong class. warlocks can use staves✓ or polearms?, so use one of those… but the fact still stands… 8.1.5 is just a transitional patch, it’s no different than the Trial of Valor raid during Legion. Just a simple short raid meant to be filler until the next major patch/raid… 8.2 is literally launching soon, and you’ll have a complete full raid full of gear for every class/spec including warlocks.
I figured you’d be able to deduce this from my previous replies… apparently not.

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No, you don’t. There are many posters on the forum that are 400 ilvl and haven’t even completed all the dungeons on normal difficulty - not just on their 400 ilvl character but on their whole account.

You can hit 400 with warfronts and world quests. You don’t even need to do lfr for gear, and you damn sure don’t have to pvp to hit 400.

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It does now, yes… I meant earlier.

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Technically doing warfronts also counts as something other than WQs. I don’t disagree with your comment though.

Realistically speaking, if you are happy to take the time you can.
WQs scale all the up to 395 through embassies, with azerite ones being 400.

Even without a single WF/TF piece as long as your azerite is capped at 50 you will have 400 ilvl.

Obviously not the best way of obtaining it, but still entirely possible.

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Today my Ally hunter got a 400 chest from the Drustvar Emissary, I had to scrap it because her chest is already 405. but her other 2 azurite pieces are 400 and 405, perhaps that’s why it was that I got the 400 chest.

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I guess I lump them together since they are both activities that are nearly afkable. World quests are harder to afk and get credit for though. :stuck_out_tongue:

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You get WQ 400 rewards after reaching 393 ilvl.

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Warlocks cannot use polearms. Its agi anyway. That staff is objectively worse than a staff 20 IL lower.

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If you get a titan proc. Otherwise you might see one as an emissary - assuming your item level is high enough. They might have made it a bit easier as of late. Haven’t really cared, I mean what’s the point anyway? In a few weeks or whatever the next content batch comes out and pretty much nullifies everything yet again.

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then what i said stands… you rolled the wrong class. you’re barking up the wrong tree.

Also looking at my armory, looks like you already have a 420 weapon from a non-worldquest… so why are you even complaining? your weapon obviously far exceeds anythign that world quests drop. checkmate.