I mean 04 vanilla was different everyone was enhance.
2019 everyone was ele
They were still only there for giving me winfury lol.
What are you considering āPassiveā If you mean like Mage Impact and Priest and Druid counterparts your high if you think that even gets close to closing the gap on the CCs in retail. Even after the numerous CC nerfs in dragonflight.
There is so much Micro CC in retail its crazy. Only thing Classic has is poly and Sap can last longer in classic.
Uhhhh nah homie. Ele just had more niche gearing that most guilds back then wouldnt allow Shaman to get.
But heres an example of what happened when they did
Reminder: this was like 2005.
And heres a more recent example of how things progressed for Ele in a then-15 year span.
Elemental was always the PvP spec. Enh was for the lulz or for when you couldnt get a guild to let you get the gear.
yes it was bro have you played classic at all lol
Uhhh ya homie I know Iāve played a shaman since vanilla I am fully aware of what they do.
I was just stating my experience in 04 most were enh, and in 2019 most were ele.
Iām not here to take a trip down memory lane, just stating how it was
At launch there wasnāt much ele gear In 04, because it was all early patch gear. I
Unlike 2019, where we started at 1.12
Not sure why people bring up 04 wow and why thatās relevant in 2024 tho
Look up range of earth shock and cast time of chain lighting - then go run a toon that distance and see what happens. Clear youāve never played a shaman versus any decent enemy.
Again who cares about ganking noobs. No ambush rogue is a threat to any real pvp player.
This is the spec Iāve been playing recently. It isnāt super easy to 1 shot good players especially when they are trying to avoid it.
No. Mages arenāt the biggest threat to EFCs and arenātā going around 1 shotting good players. Read what I wrote about the potion and them running out of juice.
Anyways its clear you donāt have experience pvping in Era at a decent skill level.
Prove me wrong we can login and queue on either side, letās see your skills.
god damn, throwback to an awesome song.
it really wasnāt 
and the burstiness you remember required cooldowns and setup. unlike SoD, where keyboard mashers are just running around 1 shotting everyone
They were better times.
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Lol what, everyone played ele.
Maybe you shouldnāt talk about things you donāt know.
I donāt think you guys are really out there 1v1n and wpvpn right now.
I was going to mention ioneye lol
Iād say time to kill is pretty good this phase in wPvP and AV. I can 1vX without cds and have time to LOS and kite without getting blown up like in phase 2.
The issue is with the 30% hp increase in WSG/AB and BRM. Makes Shamans, Frenzied regen druids and warlocks unkillable.
And no, 50% resi was garbage. We were going OOM in duels.
50% Was the worst thing ever, only approved of by BUMs.
50% reduction was terrible, even worse than it is now. Blizzard needs to just really focus on balancing things out instead of blanket damage reduction or healing reduction. The blanket damage and healing reduction really hurts some classes in a negative way, and really helps others. Ultimately, if blizzard actually cares about SOD pvp, they will work on fine tuning classes to bring some better balance to the pvp scene.
The problem is they made healers overpowered like they are in every other expansion.
When healers can instantly heal somebody from 0 to 100 the only way people ever die is if they get one shot.