WoW's Narrative Director Compared Himself to a 6 Year Old Coal Miner?

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OP stalked through two years worth of Steve’s twitter just to find some silly twitter post in order to attack him over and stir up trouble.

More at 11.

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Yep and that’s awful, but I also think crunch is awful too and I can think both are bad at the same time. This isn’t a bad working conditions competition, let’s just have none instead

And the solution to both problems: unionizing

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We can agree that both are bad… but both are not equally bad.
We can also agree that neither should exist.

It is a nuance thing, really. We can accept that someone has it worse than us, but that does not mean that we ourselves don’t have it bad though.

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Because anyone with half a brain realizes he is not saying “we have it as bad as a 6 year old miner” and more of “I am making a metaphorical comparison using the objects in this picture”.

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I guess I just don’t see the point in even arguing over which is worse, that sounds like the kind of argument the bosses want you to have amongst yourselves to break up solidarity amongst workers so they don’t unionize and demand better working conditions in any industry.

And that’s some BS.

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How do you know OP stalked? Maybe because you do that yourself?

Maybe someone just retweeted that and appeared on his timelime, but damn, you had to be so precise on your arguments :smiley:

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Steve is an idiot. Nothing new.

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There is no point in arguing what is worse, really.
All we should discuss, is how to solve all of these problems.

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One is a desk job.
The other is breathing in aerated coal dust that causes death.

Nope. Can’t tell which one is worse.

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You are.​​

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He couldn’t even write a good metaphor.

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The solution to both is the same: labor regulations and unionizing. There is a reason we don’t have kids in coal mines anymore and you can thank labor activists who also want to unionize the games industry nowadays along with other places like Starbucks, Amazon, etc.

Don’t be fooled by the bosses who want you to squabble amongst yourselves about who has it worse.

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Forcing children to work isn’t capitalism.
What a stupid post.

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Source? Could you post his resum​é for the rest of us?

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Every time people bring out the unionization makes my eyes glaze over. They’re not the same, so how would the solution be the same?

Reminds me how out-of-touch people are when they think unions are the antidote to everything.

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It’s not as big of a deal as you’re pretending it is.

Typical outrage bait.

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That’s why there are unions for different fields. So that the people who work in those fields can collectively bargain on behalf of each other for specific demands to improve their working conditions.

Some fun facts about unions:

https://aflcio.org/formaunion/collective-voice

  • Union members earn better wages and benefits than workers who aren’t union members. On average, union workers’ wages are 11.2% higher than their nonunion counterparts.

  • Ninety-six percent of union workers have employer-provided health insurance, but only 69% of nonunion workers do.

  • Unions help bring more working people into the middle class. In fact, in states where people don’t have union rights, workers’ incomes are lower.

  • Working people in a union are more likely to participate in an employer-provided guaranteed pension plan than working people without a union (54% compared to 8%).

  • Unions help employers create a more stable, productive workforce—where workers have a say in improving their jobs. Unions also provide a voice on the job, which is something that money can’t buy.

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I can definitely agree with protecting workers. But I think people need to also be mindful that overtime =/= your life being in danger. It’s a faulty perspective. And the organizations addressing these things need to focus on two different set of issues.

Crunch culture is a different where it’s more of mental health concerns that needs to be addressed and prioritized. And honestly, people who are overworked are less productive. Or they may end up doing things to ‘fill’ time instead of doing productive work. Also a big part of this problem is management timelines. Some companies don’t factor in how realistic some timelines are, and sometimes managers don’t fight for their employees cause they want to protect their own position.

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Why is the OP so angry? Is that his picture?

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Have you actually worked in a union before?