WoW token coming to ERA?

[Lazarak-whitemane]

Yup. All the token does is let blizzard sell gold to bots wherein they turn around and sell it back

[Totemjeep-atiesh]

I’m already raid logging Wrath and will stop once my guild kills the Lich King on heroic or whatever it is.

Keeping Era intact as it is, or developing Classic Plus with sensible vanilla-style philosophy is the only way they will retain my sub. I know some idiot is gonna be like “oh noez they’re gonna lose ur single sub” well too bad you wasted your time listening to my 2c and I’m sure there are several people in the same boat as me.

Bottom line, tokens and whatnot in Classic does not belong. Not sure if there’s enough whales playing Classic for Blizz to profit off of.

[Fpsnelf-grobbulus]

@Blooddrunk-grobbulus

This was the exact opposite of a casual guild. Casual guilds are not hyper min maxing the game. The guilds I ran with in vanilla did not post logs and many members didn’t bother with world buffs. You are running with a parsing guild, not a casual guild.

You and I have much different meaning of casual then. You can run logs and still be a casual guild bud. Casual to me refers to guilds that don’t kick underperforming players, and non speed running guilds. We didn’t have gear requirements for raiders, we didn’t kick people if they didn’t have world buffs, consumes, or missed raids. No one got benched for wiping the raid multiple times ect. This was pretty casual.

[Fpsnelf-grobbulus]

@Kayberz-whitemane

I knew a ton of people that bought gold in 2019 classic, however, in my experience those players also would blow their money like crazy on stupid stuff and deathrolls.
Ive never bought gold before, but a lot of gold buyers in my guild thought i did because i always had gold. But the reason is because i went hard in phase 1/2 farming devilsaur leather and i bought consumables and materials months ahead of time that they would be relevant
I made about 9k gold and was able to make that last me the entirety of classic all the way to naxx by just being smart with my gold and doing stuff like farming my own demonic runes instead of buying dark runes and spending a few hours farming elemental earths every once in awhile.
The people that swipe their card are typically really loose with their gold because they can just keep swiping, but it isnt hard to have gold legit, especially if you’re a mage

I’m not saying it was hard to have legit gold. I’m saying the people that raided logged the whole expansion literally didn’t play outside of raid days and yet still had thousands of gold for consumes. They obviously were buying gold.

[Fpsnelf-grobbulus]

@Piptak-wyrmrest-accord

Playing to obtain items to progress your character is what an RPG is about. When you pay to bypass, you’re indicating you don’t want to play an RPG. Raid logging feels like you would rather have a raid lobby game. Perhaps they’d put a vendor in that lobby where you could swipe and purchase your consumables.
What a friggin joke.

I don’t understand raid logging either, to me wow has always been about the journey getting the gear and then using it in bgs, or open world.

[Cybyr-whitemane]

what in the world

[Voodoojusten-thunderlord]

What world?

[Blooddrunk-grobbulus]

I agree that what you just described is also casual, they are guilds that aren’t hyper min maxing the game. I wasn’t trying to say a casual guilds never post logs, just that some I ran with did not as an example of people who don’t care about them. Really my main point was, these are the majority of guilds, and they are not the ones with rampant gold buying. There might be a couple members that buy gold, but it’s not completely endemic like it is with speed runners and GDKPers. The people who claim that everyone or 99% of players buy gold are usually in the GDKP bubble and are just rationalizing their behavior.

[Daddychill-ashkandi]

Could be a slippery slope, or a slippery slope fallacy.

[Fpsnelf-grobbulus]

@Blooddrunk-grobbulus

I agree that what you just described is also casual, they are guilds that aren’t hyper min maxing the game. I wasn’t trying to say a casual guilds never post logs, just that some I ran with did not as an example of people who don’t care about them. Really my main point was, these are the majority of guilds, and they are not the ones with rampant gold buying. There might be a couple members that buy gold, but it’s not completely endemic like it is with speed runners and GDKPers. The people who claim that everyone or 99% of players buy gold are usually in the GDKP bubble and are just rationalizing their behavior.

Judging by the amount of bots I see every time I am playing the game, there’s a larger amount of people buying gold than we all think. They wouldn’t be botting in this game if there wasn’t a good market for it.

[Nastytusk-area-52]

@Norinila-moon-guard

if it ends the bots and rmt im down

WoW token is RMT, dude. How can people seriously not realize this. No wonder Blizzard keeps making you guys eat a stinkier sht sandwich every month.

[Blooddrunk-grobbulus]

@Fpsnelf-grobbulus

there’s a larger amount of people buying gold than we all think.

There is definitely a sizable percentage that buy gold, I’m only dismissing the extreme claims that 90+% buy gold. But even still, there can be a ton of botting for just a minority of whales. In free to play games, a company often profits off a few addicts burning thousands upon thousand of dollars away, when most of the playerbase spend nothing or only on a couple low value purchases.

[Voodoojusten-thunderlord]

Wow tokens do not reduce botting or gold selling. Stop believing blizzard.

[Dwama-mankrik]

official line has always been NO TOKEN in vanilla. that’s a line in the sand Blizzard knows not to cross, they even said so.

[Styls-grobbulus]

lmao…

When token first came out on Wrath it sold for 10.5k… its now 5.6k. Blizzard is making a killing.

[Relodis-dathremar (Relodis)]

I wouldn’t even be mad if the token came to Era, at this point nothing is surprising so why not.