Wow sub numbers

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@Karestae-moon-guard

Make it even better, the Venthyr never find out about the deal with Al’ar and are confused as hell when Kael is suddenly amongst the living as a Demi god with the power to self ressurrect after death.

It’d be amusing to see them trying to take Kael’thas back only to realize they can’t: he’s not dead. The man would exist outside of the cycle of Life and Death, even bypassing Ardenweald. If the Sunwell were corrupted again, he could likely purify it himself with phoenixfire. Blood Elven identity has been a little too light oriented for a long time now. Making fire a more prominent force would be great.

Add some fiery eyes as Blood Elf customizations, maybe some red glowing hands like the Nightborne have arcane hands.

@Karestae-moon-guard

Would be cool in my opinion. And would be a nice buffer against people like Jaina alliance side.

Agreed. For as powerful as Jaina has become over time, Kael’thas really is the only Horde-alligned character whom could stand against her, and this power-up brings him on par with her, or surpasses her. Either way, he makes for the ideal Horde counterpart to Jaina.

@Karestae-moon-guard

Kael, Loa’jin, Talanji with Bwom on her side, would make the an awesome powerhouse trio for the horde and give them the magical might to counter the obscene power that most alliance leaders have.

The Horde could still use some stronger characters, but it would be a major boost to have a solid three.

[Breakcog-proudmoore (Breakcog)]

@Solarion-wyrmrest-accord

…On some level, I think it’d be interesting if perhaps Al’ar and Kael’thas had a pact of sorts, one where Al’ar should revive him so long as he’s worthy. A kind of insurance policy of sorts. At least that way Kael’thas’ sudden return has an explanation: after sufficient time spent working towards penance with the Venthyr, he finally reaches the point Al’ar considers him worthy of his return.

Hmm. For better or worst, that might actually happen concerning starcraft’s fight with the Void.

Starcraft 2 ► Legacy of the Void Cinematic [HD] - Kerrigan Becomes Xel'Naga - Into the Void Campaign

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@Breakcog-proudmoore

For better or worst, that might actually happen concerning starcraft’s fight with the Void.

So long as its not painted as Kael’thas becoming a First One or something. A self-resurrecting demi-god works fine.

[Breakcog-proudmoore (Breakcog)]

@Solarion-wyrmrest-accord

So long as its not painted as Kael’thas becoming a First One or something. A self-resurrecting demi-god works fine…

Hmmm. I did just realize Al’ar’s plot might even be involved with the Amani such as giving our scenario a spin for a new troll empire.

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I don’t think the sin’dorei would just go with it at all to be honest. Though Lor’themar didn’t do it all by himself, he brought Quel’thalas back from the brink of destruction after Arthas’s march on the Sunwell, and Kael’s leaving for Outland.

Meanwhile Kael sided with the Legion, and helped attempt to bring Kil’jaeden into Azeroth through the Sunwell. His legacy has got to be tarnished after that.

[Anyaceltica-llane (Anyaceltica)]

Classic saved retail.

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I wouldn’t doubt it, DF has been pretty great in my opinion.

[Erevien-aegwynn]

Dragonflight is basic and has no stakes so Blizzard is playing it save here.

[Raychee-area-52]

Bliz gave some numbers at the GDC. Bellular was able to flesh them out more. Similar to what the OP reported. Maybe a tad higher. Subs had been below 5 mil at a point or two. They are over 7 now. They are rising even with it being end of an expansion.

His video “ Report: WoW’s Actual Subscriber Count & Blizz’s Official Shadowlands Post-mortem” is on his Bellular Warcraft channel on youtube

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Which really, is exactly what they should of done by the looks of it.

[Pigzig-nagrand]

dont forget
youre here forever

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@Ëlësà-moon-guard

Shadowlands also dropped sub numbers to a record low of 4.5 million even with wotlk classic and a covid pandemic going on, in which sub numbers would normally be expected to increase significantly

Yeah sure, lol.

[Melustrasza-wyrmrest-accord]

Nah, BC and Wrath classic apparently had nowhere near the pull that vanilla classic had - and I doubt Cata classic will be much more even with SoD shoring up the worst by adding cut content

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@Ëlësà-moon-guard

Thoughts?

That this is better placed in General Discussion.

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@Erevien-aegwynn

Bfa bombing was well deserved.

Legit my favourite expansion Loved the unique faction-specific levelling experience.

@Anyaceltica-llane

Classic saved retail.

It kept Shadowlands limping along but I doubt that’s true, in truth. There’s been no significant rises with BC or WOTLK’s release.

[Nightsong-mannoroth]

@Sarestha-wyrmrest-accord

Loved the unique faction-specific levelling experience.

That part was fun… it’s just… well the majority of the rest…

Heck I generally enjoyed the leveling experience in Shadowlands… I’m not a fan of some of the themes and how heavy handed they were with them, but leveling in Shadowlands wasn’t a bad experience.

[Erevien-aegwynn]

Bfa ruined my fun. I will never again have any Horde pride.