I pronounce it Nag-Ah, instead of the correct Nah-gah. Just something I grew up with personally from relatives playing games with Naga and pronouncing it differently.
Friends thought I was trying to say something (jokingly of course) and laughed because I never say anything close to “that word.” It’s just the way I say it personally.
If the chat race-baited him then gg, fam.
sorry, if you get jebaited that easily by your chat, you won’t stand a single second evading ToS long enough on Twitch.
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and if said people, in said south, has never heard the word naga, they would assume the person speaking was saying what word that they know and sounds oh so close…almost like saying the actual word with an accent. sigh.
Cute, but the innocent i didnt know excuse does not work
To add to the problem, there are idiots like HeelvsBabyface going on long rants about how it’s SJW types who are causing the banning of those Twitch members who were spamming buddy’s stream.
It’s people like the spammers who are the reason we can’t have nice things, and they’re the ones who got the ban hammer. But it’s also people like HeelvsBabyface who seem to delight in muddying the waters with their WSW (White Supremacist Warrior) garbage, causing wars where there weren’t any before.
TL/DR: The streamer was only a very minor part of the problem, but everyone has a responsibility for how this will play out.
So I actually looked into this and found out that the post in question was really all about intent. While I am no fan of companies injecting personal politics into their consumer’s products (especially when it’s a recreational product like WoW), in this case it was a fair reaction and the right call.
The word was used by the streamer in substitution and context with another word. It wasn’t a case of some one who was hyper woke, lashing out as some people seem to always think these days.
Rather it was the case of a Streamer using the word to imply another similar sounding word. Because intent is the key decider on if wrongdoing happened or not, I think Twitch made the right call here.
~https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/twitch-apparently-bans-users-for-referring-nagas-in-wow-699251
those racist tortollans and their anti-naga agenda
Come on though. If someone is using naga to really mean a certain slur for black people and they get caught on it. Ban them.
Exactly it was all about intent. To quote Kael’thas, he gambled and lost.
But I can see how maybe you really are talking about naga and someone could twist it…but that’s not what happened here.
Some of you might remember the guy who got famous for this:
I love words. I thank you for hearing my words.
I want to tell you something about words that I think is important.
They're my work, they're my play, they're my passion.
Words are all we have, really. We have thoughts but thoughts are fluid, y'know like, woo woo woo woo, POP! Then we assign a word to a thought and we're stuck with that word for that thought, so be careful with words.
I like to think that yeah, the same words that hurt can heal, it's a matter of how you pick them.
There are some people that aren't into all the words.
There are some that would have you not use certain words.
Yeah, there are 400,000 words in the English language and there are 7 of them that you can't say on television. What a ratio that is!
399,993 to 7. They must really be bad. They'd have to be outrageous to be separated from a group that large.
All of you over here, you 7, baaad words!
That's what they told us they were, remember? "That's a bad word!" No bad words, bad thoughts, bad intentions, and words!
You can listen to or read the rest elsewhere if you want to hear a true liberal hero who got famous for their stance on free speech. At the end he even commented on the Naga -like word.
Yes. Universally racist or universally accepted. This is the ONLY case in which its socially acceptable to use a racist slur as the race its meant to offend.
Ironically, and while perhaps a negative world-view, this applies to all sides of this Greek tragedy: those offended by the use of the word, and those offended by the ban.
Though, I prefer the term engaged over offended: because, let’s face it, both “sides” give enough to post and write their minds.
I agree, they knew exactly what they were doing and by doing it they encouraged their loyal followers to follow suit. It was very apparent if you read the tweet about it and the twitch chat comments (not really sure why he would post those as they put a nail in his coffin.
The streamers need to be aware that all of these social media companies are cracking down on this type of thing. These companies know that there are members of congress who would love to add regulations to that industry.
I kinda follow George Carlin’s thinking about words (but not all of it) and such but he wasn’t cool with racism either so its kinda weird. Cause he’d say “words are just words, they are innocent, its the context and the person using them that matter”, and in this case this guy’s context got found out.
Hmm George doesn’t quite seem to line up what people say he says. Just gonna delete the word in question here and leave a *** in the place of words that’d get me a time out.
“For instance, you take the word “***” There is absolutely nothing wrong with the word “***” in and of itself. It’s the racist *** who’s using it that you ought to be concerned about. We don’t mind when Richard Pryer or Eddie Murphy say it. Why? Because we know they’re not racist. They’re ***! Context. Context. We don’t mind their context because we know they’re black. Hey, I know I’m whitey, (removed to be safe). Don’t bother my ***. They’re only words. You can’t be afraid of words that speak the truth, even if it’s an unpleasant truth, like the fact that there’s a bigot and a racist in every living room on every street corner in this country.”
In all seriousness, if it was up to me, I would have considered the context the word is used in.
Like, if I saw you go up to a black person and deliberately call him a NAGA making it clearly obvious by your intent that you are laughing at him and making fun of him with a North American Ground Ape joke, then yeah, I’d ban you.
But if you are just making a stream talking about the Naga in wow, as in the serpents, then no, you’re fine.
See, context to me changes everything, and it’s hard to know without seeing the full context.
Cheers to Twitch for banning bigots!
Lamia is a lion looking greek child eating woman monster.
That’s the original version from mythology, most current (and more well known) versions have the lower body of a snake or lion.
Murlocs are not people. Jinyu are fish people.
Murlocs are just goldfish with legs.