WoW Population left

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No one but Blizzard knows for sure, but there is a WoW Addon called CensusPlus, it records some data that shows who is online at the time players run it, assuming they also upload their data.

A month ago there was 1.7 million showing on their site, tonight I am seeing 1.2 million only and this bad, very bad. Either those who use Census are not using it, have left or this really is the situation, 500K players in a month gone.

So in MoP I was in a guild with some 800+ players and many thousands of characters, we were very very active and at the time as an officer in the guild I had plenty of interaction with the guild doing officer stuff, maybe more than even running content, just doing what I can to keep it running.

It got too much so the core group of about 50 players bailed and formed our own guild, which is the same one I am still a part of and up until this week we have always had 2 raids going until more towards the end of patches when there was no new content coming, just players doing quick runs, achievements, Xmog and so on.

Tonight, what is it, 3 months since BfA dropped and we already have only one raid going and only 1 hour in that raid just disbanded. And I am seeing this quite a bit here, players stating there are no pug raids on Alliance and not enough even for their usual guild runs.

Communities that we have built up over time, over many years, just disappearing into thin air. Yes some players leave, some take breaks like I have done and some just get sick of the same thing so they change their course, raiding into PVP, or M+ or even just LFG so they can still play but with no stress, but to have no raids on raid night, issues trying to find a good group for M+ and, the kicker:

  • There are 358 players only in my CensusPlus addon for the horde across Thaurissan and Dreadmaul who are currently logged in total.

This app takes a snapshot of all players on the /who from level 20 > 120. Again, it may not be accurate, so please don’t come here preaching my information is wrong, I know there is a good chance it is, but what else do we have to work with?

Blizzard are too afraid to tell us how bad it has become, and honestly just being in game and seeing how it is we don’t need numbers to tell us that.

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Actually, they reveal this number every quarterly or annual meeting.

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the fact that when bfa launched you would fight for 20 minutes just to be able to do a champions world quest.

Now you can do 10 world quests before seeing an alliance.

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Because warmode is bad

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blizzard employees are to busy playing cell phone games to worry about wow.

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If every single WoW player doesn’t use the addon, its data is faulty.

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It would be still 500k players from the ones that use the addon. It’s bad, even if you don’t count the ones that don’t use the addon and probably have left too. Assuming this data is real.

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That addon in no way shape or form is accurate.

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Lets be real, it’s because 8.1 is around the corner.

People are already in 380+ ilvl equipped. whats the point of playing? if you already have everything.

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That sounds about right. Of course this thread will be flooded with people saying it’s not true, can’t be, addons don’t count everyone, etc.

It takes some critical thinking skills to put together multiple sets of information: addon data from multiple sources, guild participation, 6 month sub mount, AMAs by Ion, how they cracked down on that WeakAuras stuff, etc. Put all that together and it’s totally plausible that the subs are around 1.2 million.

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No, they don’t.

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I don’t have this add on, I am thinking that not everyone else has it either.

Some of the people that previously had it, might have just uninstalled, and kept on playing.

Relying on an add on is not an accurate way to judge subscription numbers.

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The data is grossly underreporting the total players logged in over long periods. A quick look at their US realm stats show almost every server with red numbers, indicating insufficient scans to be accurate. Even on the 30 day stat page, there are realms showing zero logged in players on one faction, meaning literally nobody on that faction is using this addon. Given that, I’d say the fact that it’s showing 1.2mil players online indicates the game is actually not faring as badly as people fear.

Also keep in mind that logged in players =/= active subscribers. Lots of people will just log in to do their dailies before 8.1, and they’re probably being missed by scans considering how many timezones the US servers cover and how infrequently the census data is being taken. Lots more are probably “taking a break” with other games entirely while leaving their sub running.

Not saying that the game ISN’T in trouble, just that this is a very poor method of determining that.

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Nobody outside Blizzard knows what their sub numbers are. But one thing you can see is their income.

In the 3rd quarter of 2018 World of Warcraft earned $1,249 Million dollars from “subscriptions, licensing royalties from our products and franchises, downloadable content, microtransactions, and other miscellaneous revenues” **

That figure was an increase over the same time 2017, and the 9-months-to-date figure was also an increase over the same period the previous year.

I find it difficult to believe that an INCREASE in income = a DECREASE in subscriptions.

** h ttps://investor.activision.com/news-releases/news-release-details/activision-blizzard-announces-third-quarter-2018-financial

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That for all games in the company. It actually does not break down for wo till down a bit. My investor not home so no clue what MAUs is. But its at 37 million.

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I don’t care if wow lives or dies. The game feels dead, period. Only people who make this game their whole life argue it’s not because it’s all they know.

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But if you dont careb why are you playing it lol go do something else you enjoy!

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Welcome to the holiday season. Wait for January 22nd

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If you read down on the site I linked it very clearly says that the figure I quoted relates to World of Warcraft. It doesn’t mention any other games.

MAU = Monthly Active Users.

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That’s not how the addon works. You just need someone with the addon on your server to be on as the same time you are to be recorded.

Regardless, even if the absolute numbers are inaccurate, the percentage change likely is quite indicative of whatever the trends are.