wow used to be about the bring the player,its been bring the fotm class for a while and now the next wave of Toxicity is bring the highest io score.
thats the next logical step for raider io.
Before raiderIO it was ilvl. In general the WoW pug playerbase is obsessed with arbitrary systems about judging other players.
It's pretty awful for casual but skilled raiders. I mostly just raid on raid nights. Do well, i'm fairly skilled nothing amazing but i can more than pull my weight.
M+ i usually do a totally random times for the weekly so guild groups dont happen since when i have time to do one people arent on.
Option? pug it, but i do one maybe two a week, my IO score is bad because i dont do alot and i cant get into groups because of the stupid score. It's a self fullfilling prophecy, so i just dont do M+ anymore since pugging is so bad.
Only log into raid these days.
M+ i usually do a totally random times for the weekly so guild groups dont happen since when i have time to do one people arent on.
Option? pug it, but i do one maybe two a week, my IO score is bad because i dont do alot and i cant get into groups because of the stupid score. It's a self fullfilling prophecy, so i just dont do M+ anymore since pugging is so bad.
Only log into raid these days.
11/10/2018 01:44 PMPosted by Dockei cant get into groups because of the stupid score. It's a self fullfilling prophecy, so i just dont do M+ anymore since pugging is so bad
this is why raider io will kill mythic+ its actually dying already only 2 months in the expansion have you seen the lfg its either 3 dps looking for tank heals or the one person they told to make their own group....lol.
Since there are so many people on here complaining about Raider.io, why don’t all of you friend each other and do them together?
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11/10/2018 01:30 PMPosted by Thanenbring the highest io score.
11/10/2018 01:44 PMPosted by Dockei cant get into groups because of the stupid score.
If only there was a way to get your own key and run your own group.
I dont have time to run multiple M+ to get a key worth doing champ, you should know that. I just said i only have time to run one or two a week. Getting a decent key takes time and multiple runs.11/10/2018 01:50 PMPosted by Holsteiner11/10/2018 01:30 PMPosted by Thanenbring the highest io score.11/10/2018 01:44 PMPosted by Dockei cant get into groups because of the stupid score.
If only there was a way to get your own key and run your own group.
Only a +9 or 10 is worth my time at my ilvl.
but yeah be smug.
11/10/2018 01:48 PMPosted by Thanenthis is why raider io will kill mythic+ its actually dying already only 2 months in the expansion have you seen the lfg its either 3 dps looking for tank heals or the one person they told to make their own group....lol.
Funny, here I am, at a non-peak hour, looking at the LFG and there are pages and pages of groups all looking for various roles. Seems quite lively for a dying system to me.
Hyperbole does not win arguments; it only makes you look like a hyperbolic tool. Although, to be fair, these days it also seems to qualify you to go into politics.
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11/10/2018 01:53 PMPosted by DockeI dont have time to run multiple M+ to get a key worth doing champ, you should know that. I just said i only have time to run one or two a week. Getting a decent key takes time and multiple runs.
So, your time is valuable, but someone else's isn't? Because vetting people to join a high-end key, which you yourself just acknowledged takes an effort to work up to, in order to ensure a higher chance of success for that key so as not to waste their time is exactly why io is used.
You literally just refuted your own argument.
11/10/2018 01:53 PMPosted by DockeI dont have time to run multiple M+ to get a key worth doing champ, you should know that. I just said i only have time to run one or two a week. Getting a decent key takes time and multiple runs.11/10/2018 01:50 PMPosted by Holsteiner...
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If only there was a way to get your own key and run your own group.
Only a +9 or 10 is worth my time at my ilvl.
but yeah be smug.
First off, you play the worst spec from the worst class on the worst faction.
Secondly if you did a 10 last week, you have a 9 key this week. If you can do 2 keys a week you can just run your own key twice to get your 10.
No i didnt...you clearly arent paying attention.11/10/2018 01:57 PMPosted by Holsteiner11/10/2018 01:53 PMPosted by DockeI dont have time to run multiple M+ to get a key worth doing champ, you should know that. I just said i only have time to run one or two a week. Getting a decent key takes time and multiple runs.
So, your time is valuable, but someone else's isn't? Because vetting people to join a high-end key, which you yourself just acknowledged takes an effort to work up to, in order to ensure a higher chance of success for that key so as not to waste their time is exactly why io is used.
You literally just refuted your own argument.
Raider IO is a fundamentally flawed system. All it does it base things on completion time. It doesnt show skill or ability. A single metric that has very little to do with their ability is a bad system, you have to see that right?
Thats as stupid as cutting a dps from G'huun cus phase 2 damage is lower than it should be when they're running orbs. It doesnt give you the full picture.
Its just simply a stupid and arbitrary system, it doesnt give full data and only records certain runs.
I completely understand wanting a successful run, but there way better methods of figuring that out than a stupid number that is overall pointless.
Not an io elitist but why would you bring someone to a +9 when their io says they have only done a +3 freehold?
11/10/2018 02:04 PMPosted by DockeRaider IO is a fundamentally flawed system. All it does it base things on completion time. It doesnt show skill or ability. A single metric that has very little to do with their ability is a bad system, you have to see that right?
I see exactly what is there, which is whether or not you've been involved in a successful run of the key being sought, indicating whether or not you likely know the ins and outs of that particular dungeon and can perform correctly. Experience is everything; one wipe on a +10 will quite likely blow the timer.
11/10/2018 02:04 PMPosted by DockeI completely understand wanting a successful run, but there way better methods of figuring that out than a stupid number that is overall pointless.
Don't be vague; by all means, tell us this magic solution that gives you actual, objective information on the fly about the person offering themselves to your group for that key you've worked so hard to level up.
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so what exactly is the difference here
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11/10/2018 01:30 PMPosted by Thanenwow used to be about the bring the player
so what exactly is the difference here
Let me put it this way: looking at your io score, I see that the highest you've accomplished is a 9; and missed the timer, at that. Why would I bring you to my +10, knowing you've never even seen an infested add, when I have several applicants who not only have, but have done so within the timer.
Be honest with yourself, at least; what would YOU do?
Be honest with yourself, at least; what would YOU do?
11/10/2018 01:34 PMPosted by CurzèBefore raiderIO it was ilvl. In general the WoW pug playerbase is obsessed with arbitrary systems about judging other players.
Do you know what arbitrary means? lol
IO isnt meaningless. Its not just score. You can see your best as well as your best for dungeon. Also, if your main is 400 IO I dont want you in my eleven. There is good reason why. That reason being that any decently geared person who gives a !@#$ can get that much inside a few days.
11/10/2018 01:54 PMPosted by Holsteiner11/10/2018 01:48 PMPosted by Thanenthis is why raider io will kill mythic+ its actually dying already only 2 months in the expansion have you seen the lfg its either 3 dps looking for tank heals or the one person they told to make their own group....lol.
Funny, here I am, at a non-peak hour, looking at the LFG and there are pages and pages of groups all looking for various roles. Seems quite lively for a dying system to me.
Hyperbole does not win arguments; it only makes you look like a hyperbolic tool. Although, to be fair, these days it also seems to qualify you to go into politics.
bring that io score not player.its io score>fotm class.the player.
thats what wow is now.
11/10/2018 02:16 PMPosted by HolsteinerLet me put it this way: looking at your io score, I see that the highest you've accomplished is a 9; and missed the timer, at that. Why would I bring you to my +10, knowing you've never even seen an infested add, when I have several applicants who not only have, but have done so within the timer.
Be honest with yourself, at least; what would YOU do?
this exactly why would i bring you 1000 io score when the next person has a 1001 io score.higher score means more experience...lmao.
11/10/2018 01:30 PMPosted by Thanenwow used to be about the bring the player,its been bring the fotm class for a while and now the next wave of Toxicity is bring the highest io score.
thats the next logical step for raider io.
Before Raider IO it was item level, before item level is was gear score, and before it was gear score, it was what boss experience/purples you had.
As long as there are people playing any type of game, there will be some form of toxicity.
As ilvl corresponds directly to your ability to output damage and healing, and to take damage and survive; and as raider.io score is a direct reflection of player experience as far as keystones completed and the times taken; neither could correctly be called "arbitrary."
Of course neither is a 100% predictive / correlated either. But's definitely hard data that could be proven to increase the chance of success (comparing taking it into account vs. not.)
What neither has anything to do with is "fun", for which running with your friends and guildies continues to be the best strategy regardless.
Of course neither is a 100% predictive / correlated either. But's definitely hard data that could be proven to increase the chance of success (comparing taking it into account vs. not.)
What neither has anything to do with is "fun", for which running with your friends and guildies continues to be the best strategy regardless.