I’m gonna say there’s probably legitimately zero guilds that mandate not using addons. Any guild that’s looking to progress is going to at least be open to using them.
I’m gonna say MOST guilds below the Mythic Raid / M+15 level don’t actually care if you’re running addons or not unless you’re making mistakes that addons would help resolve.
Keep in mind Blizzard designs encounters with people using addons in mind. It’s not cheating to use them.
I’ve not been in many guilds (2) - and only one is a mythic raiding guild (new though so no CE yet) and neither of them require addons. If you can play without them, they really don’t care.
I only downloaded WA to make guildies happy. I still don’t actually use them. And in the meantime I outperform them all on mythic level encounters.
I’ve yet to run into something that I actually needed a WA for.
The main reason I have them is for mythic hungering because apparently Shift+V is too hard to use, but obnoxious text boxes above people’s heads (that I have disabled) are somehow more likely to be looked at by people who don’t look at things to begin with.
It was so hard to do destroyer because every other pull it would be WA copy paste stuff. They would notice because my char wasn’t yelling out my health and such.
I dont know if they still have/use them, but they use to have addon checkers raid leaders could use to see if raiders complied with addon requirements.
Some of the newer addons or WAs aren’t there for you, rather for the team or other players to know what you are doing. Most players can probably survive just fine without DBM or BigWig, but WAs make certain mechanics that require coordination much much easier.
For example, on mychic sire when you have two adds that need to be interrupted exactly 5 times each. Try doing that without WAs or addons that show a number on their head how many casts have gone off.
I mean, is that really the mentality you should have as a raider? It’s a team oriented activity, you are not just responsible for your own survival, but others as well. And as such shouldn’t do everything within your power to make sure that you are the least probably cause of problem?
If Blizzard gets rid of all addons and “design the fights” accordingly, I’d be all for it. But as it stands now there are mechanics that are just too complicated to organize in a group without some external hint.
Its okay! I am not trying to get addons banned and such. I just really wanted to find a guild who was like 900-1200 which didn’t require addons and such.
there might be people in those guilds that dont run addons, but i highly doubt it. Not using them is just holding yourself back your not going to be a cutting edge player without at least 1 addon, even if you dont have them yourself you would still make use of them being used by others, for example in logging.
Not gonna say its not possible to reach those levels without addons, it is but if you are that good without them you would still be better with them. They dont fix your gameplay, just give you more accurate information to do it yourself.