Much like how Star Wars Fans hate Star Wars. In fact, now that I think about it, both franchises have become quite similar. When both were released (Vanilla WoW and the First Star Wars Movie) they both were new, both were big, and both were something that has never been seen before, and everyone embraced it. Nowadays however, every time there anything new added to the franchise, its the same old story. “Every movie/xpac is as bad as the last one!” or “The (insert Movie/Xpac) was 10 times better than this!” or “This director/writer ruined my childhood.” Even more similar is that both franchies are at their 8th installment, (The Last Jedi and Battle for Azeroth) and both have the first three installments that EVERYONE loves and spits on everything else and anyone who says otherwise.)
And its not just WoW it seems. Starcraft 2 got lots of flak and spite cause how “easy” and “simple” it is compared to Brood War, acting as if limitations and poor pathfinding are in fact great game design. Hating on Kerrigan given another chance, when in fact they could’ve easily killed her off at the end of WoL. Would THAT have been preferable? Diablo 3 gets hated for its launch, its story, and of course, the mobile game. HotS gets called a dying game, and Overwatch get ridiculed and memed everywhere.
TL:DR: Its a wonder why some of you “fans” continue to play games or watch movies you can no longer enjoy.
WoW fans hate everything about WoW yet still scream at any proposed changes whatsoever no matter what they are. “Change nothing about this game, but also it sucks and I hate it.” People have extremely weird contradictory feelings about it it’s almost fascinating to me
We dont hate the actual game, we hate the direction it took.
Its the same for the StarWars franchise when i took the Woke direction which has ruined everything it touched.
Nobody likes the Time gating, nobody likes the multiple RNG, etc.
And we simply dont abandon something we really liked when it starts to turn bad, we want it to be good again, thats why we complain when something is clearly bad.
Lol in before the “we really love it but they’re ruining it” crowd. You’re so right OP. It’s like some sort of internet contest of who can say the nastiest stuff about the game. Most of the complaints truly baffle me.
ridiculously laughable thing to say honestly. care to explain what the “woke direction” is? casting people who aren’t white? casting women that aren’t just there to be in a bdsm slave costume a la episode 6?
I’m a Star Wars fan and the only movie I hated from the series was Rogue One. I loved the rest of them. I don’t like certain parts of WoW and certain parts of Star Wars, that doesn’t mean I hate the series or the game. Stop trying to speak for other people. Lmao
In big forums where people discuss series and movies, I have seen this question asked repeatedly, the most common answers are: to have an opinion, because they do not drop series and to appreciate even more good series/movies.
Basically making a female character, thats all around thats a female character, the main selling point is that is a female character.
I dont care if the character is female, what i care is that is a good character.
Some good examples are Ripley and Sarah Connor, amazing characters.
Thats why those franchises are getting ruined by “forcing” a female character, which is poorly written.
Take a look at Captain Marvel, everyone hates her.
Ghostbusters: Constantly making jokes and insults towards man (the main male character is borderline braindead for example)
Or at Batwoman,:
“I wont let a man take the credit of a womans job” (yet shes basically stealing Batmans life)
Half of the trailer is about her being a woman and Lesbian
The thing about the suit being wrong and must be changed so it fits a woman (what about if you just make your own suit?)
And my favorite part… IM A WOOOMAANNNN !!!
(watch the trailer if you dont believe me…)
Fair point and I agree with you on that, but the issue is not “SJWs” or feminism the issue there is male writers being generally completely incapable of writing good female characters with depth while trying pitifully to appeal to them for profit. Not gonna derail OP’s thread any further on this
Sometimes they speak up because they love something. They believe it is going the wrong direction so they speak out in the hopes someone with authority will hear them and actually listen.
Even a dev going “we understand your concerns” and it comes across as sincere and not patronizing can go a long way.
You can love a person but still hate the direction they’re going in their life.
I’m all for speaking up and fighting to change something because you love it but the problem is most of them are not fighting for anything substantial they’re complaining about the wrong things entirely and fighting for stagnation and are completely opposed to any changes made to the game unless those changes are regressions.
The “direction of the game” they want is in the past, not the future. They have that now with classic but they’re still unsatisfied.
Its absurdly hot where i live right now and its getting to me (and to make things worse Water isnt working because the ones in charge of it are braindead)
No argument there. Sometimes a person can get caught up in the rememberies and think something in the past will still be good, if you just give it a chance!
Except some things just don’t age well.
There are game aspects that were seen as kosher 10 years ago that today would be squashed during Alpha. But in five years, with tweaks they’ll make a return.
You just have to weed out the genuine heart felt concerns from those that are stuck chewing on the rememberies or even worse, those that are simply complaining to hear their own voice.