WoW ended when they destroyed Darnassus & UC

I sincerely hope you dont depart, but if you do know you will be missed. Hope you find something to be your escape. Cheers Rhielle and good luck

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I really don’t get why they did this - one of the best quests in the game was going to visit Sylvanas on a little toon to return her locket (broach?) that you find in Ghostlands. You can still do it via the Bronze dragon but it’s kind of sad it’s mostly gone.

:cookie:

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Agreed. Consequences are fine. Leveling entire huge cities that hold racial culture is a bit much. Theramore was bad enough, imo. But losing those areas for cultural identity is worse.

That would’ve been neat.

Why? To kill all of the Tauren and Nature creatures that are neutral? Yeah, that would’ve gone over well with the Horde. :+1:

Interestingly enough, that’s when Thallia’s RP ended. Her story was done after Deathwing. I added a little more in Mists to clean some stuff up and bring more finality to it, but her main storyline was finished. That expansion was tailored for her backstory and it was a perfect ending. One of the reasons I loved Cata so much was RPing.

Same here. I’m at the same point you are.

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The sad part is I liked MoP’s story everywhere outside of the faction conflict, haha. But I still think it’s the last time the conflict was done well. And I say well because it was never good, it was just done better than BfA’s train wreck.

The sad part is, the original content in WoD (zone specific stories) were actually pretty good. Honestly better than a lot of previous ones, I rather enjoyed those. But the ending and the meme worthy Draenor is freeeeeeeeee moment was so bad.

You’re lucky to have bailed on BfA, I kept hoping the story would improve but the writers are riding this horrible Sylvanas train and it’s just dragging the entire narrative down further than it has ever been.

If they redeem her, I can’t say I’m going to stick with WoW.

I guess it was only a matter of time, I shouldn’t have given them the benefit of the doubt after WoD’s story but Legion had given me hope, along with the good-bad-good pattern of past expansions (which is completely subjective but it was relevant to my general enjoyment of the game).

But l…I don’t know, my patience with bad decisions seems to be thinning with age, and I’m not even that old.

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Fenny was in the Kor’kron and hero worshipped Garrosh. Cataclysm was a great time for RP. lol

Nobody seems to want to RP in the Shadowlands. My old guild actually forbade you from RPing in the Maw. Most characters I come across in Shadowlands either have their TRP set to OOC or have in their OOC notes that they are OOC while in the Shadowlands. Sucks.

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To be fair, it was hinted at from the beginning of vanilla that Teldrassil was not going to last. I hope to see the night elves recover from BFA and I hope to see Ashenvale recover from Cata.

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Why in the name of god did a RP guild forbid that?

What’s the logic behind it?

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UC was the first major city I visited. I don’t like this either.

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They claim in the lore that there is only one Maw Walker, and you are not it. That they would not recognize any RP that involved the Maw, especially leaving the Maw.

I tried to even show them statements from Danuser that we are one of many Maw Walkers now. But nope.

I had to leave the guild because they would not recognize my RP. I had a character that was trapped in Torghast, and was planning an RP event of rescuing him which would have involved gathering information in the Maw and doing a RP run of Torghast to save this character.

Apparently, that is more lore breaking than a live blood elf that has literal ice in her veins and a San’Layn that can magically control blood (some examples of their officers’ RP).

I keep a character in the guild because I genuinely like the people, but I can’t really find it in me to RP with them anymore.

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How the hell did they handle legion, if there can only be one maw walker how did they handle the fact that everyone was the chosen one to wield the super weapon of X class?

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Probably because Cata didn’t really touch starting zones other than building them up. There was nothing destroyed throughout the process though. The Tauren got another little section added on, the trolls finally had their own island, and then you also had goblins and worgen getting their own places.

Undercity and Teldrassil being destroyed and made to be only capable of being visited through a bronze dragon feels bad because not much was gained through that interaction. It was tragedy brought in for the sake of providing motivations for people to go through their narrative arcs, but the players didn’t gain anything in the exchange other than motivations which a lot of people didn’t really jive with in the first place.

And this is coming from someone who plays both factions, and I was fine with Teldrassil being burned and Undercity being lost. The problem is neither of them were removed for a narrative reason that made much sense or had that much stopping power. Sylvanas’ whole bit in “A Good War” where she talks about her reasons for wanting to occupy Teldrassil made sense to me, and as someone who loves faction conflict, I had been fine with that idea. The burning just wasn’t executed well. The loss of UC as a ‘gotcha!’ moment from Sylvanas also felt kind of hollow.

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I feel that old and the exact same way. lol

This doesn’t surprise me. We’re not all supposed to be there. And it’s just skirting that “special snowflake” line a bit too much. If I was writing for my characters right now, they’d be fighting back Scourge on Azeroth.

My opinion: it should’ve been called Death from Beyond (or something like that) and the Jailer should’ve found a loophole to bring him from the Shadowlands to Icecrown. They should’ve had new portions of Icecrown for our zones, a new tower the Jailer brought through with him, Scourge invasions across all of Azeroth. That would’ve been an expansion worthy of this game.

As I mentioned above, we’re not really supposed to be there. Sure, there is more than one Maw Walker, but not all mortals are supposed to be special uber snowflakes. It’s part of the “pick your battles” thing. For instance, in RP, your character didn’t bring down Deathwing, but you were probably at the Temple and saw Ultraxion fall as you fought back the Twilight’s Hammer, making his defeat and Deathwing’s possible. It’s plausibility in writing and keeps characters from becoming “god mode.”

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If Ol’ Emma can be in Shadowlands searching for her sons, then damn it an adventurer like Fenny can be there too!

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LOL and I get that. But RP guilds tend to shy away from anything that skirts the line of “god mode.” And people can easily go overboard with Shadowlands.

I really don’t like the disconnect between Azeroth and that place. Going to a different planet where some of our races originally lived… sure. Going to an entirely different realm of existence… doesn’t work so well in this game. This isn’t Rift, where we break the veils all the time.

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I understand. However, to cut off an entire available zone of the game for RP seems ridiculous to me. Everything in game should be within limits. We (the RP community) should not be cherry picking zones that people can RP in because you are not creative enough to figure out a way for your character to exist there (not you personally, but you know what I mean).

Going into the Maw to find information on a lost friend does not automatically mean I was the one personally taking Thrall to Zovaal’s Discount Weapon Emporium (Thrall: “Fenny, how does this one look on me?”)

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They did anyway. They probably like that smell.

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I still want to know how they untied the whole knot of every enhance shaman wielding the doom hammer

As someone who doesn’t RP I felt a huge disconnect instantly from my legion weapon the second I zoned into my class order hall and saw everyone with the same weapon as me - the instantly ran out to transmog it to get my personality back

Worst offenders on that list were the doom hammer and the ashbringer by far, two super legendary weapons that where just rolling around everywhere.
They never should have used those two weapons

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I’ll be honest, I didn’t play in Legion so I have no idea how they handled it. I skipped from Cata straight to BFA.

In RP, I understood that I was not THE Champion of Azeroth with a magic necklace. I also understand that I’m not THE Maw Walker that swung Thrall by Sire D’s Pretzels for a signature Sinnamon Sugar Pretzel as a treat after shopping for a weapon.

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With the destruction of Teldrassil, it was also the beginning of the end for the Night Elves, as everything went only further downhill after that.

The sad part is that we know that they’ll never get a new capital city either. And that Teldrassil isn’t able to be repaired ever.

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Sounds lame

I’d want to be RPing as the undisputed lord of all the realms at this point, killer of the lich king, dragon slayer, any raid boss I killed in their current tier I was the killer of

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