If it’s just a game then you shouldn’t be upset that some places got smashed by that logic
It’s just a game Karen
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There is no if, dear. Are you ok?
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I was going to ask you, I was just expressing my glee at the destruction of the night elves capital city and you came here and tried to act like you thought I was an edge lord when I was clearly a man appreciating the fact that I hate night elves and got my RP on
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Sorry I misunderstood your rp, however this isn’t the rp forums, so you just came across as someone butting into a conversation to show how edgy you are. Edgy RP is fine, I enjoy a bit of that myself, but if you don’t let people know you are in character, you just come across as a… well, in this case, an edgy kevin.
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WoW Dev - We are going to do some things a lot of people are not going to like. Who cares. It’s OUR game and we will make what we want. You will buy it anyway.
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They did everyone a favor by destroying Undercity IMO.
No one, not even your worst enemy should have to live in them sewer dumps.
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Frankly, the Tel I knew died with the graphics change - can’t remember which expansion (end of cata?) - where they brighten everything up.
Tel from my memory was a dark place lit by small patches of sun/moon light that broke through the canopy, reflecting brightly off the leaves on the ground - using the specular lighting that WoW used to be able to do on “terrain” only.
Maybe it had to be done as players switch from CRTs to LCDs with less dynamic range. But it was never the same after that.
That said they could rebuild it with modern shaders and simulated the dark high contrast look - they did it with some parts of the Night Fae zone.
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I hated the changes in cata and I hated these changes in BFA. Not because I don’t want them to update the old world , but because a lot of these changes are just dump and run. It really sucks that the events of cataclysm are still occuring in so many places, for example. you’d think that some things would go back to normal. That we’d be apart of some rebuild, that we could see the efforts of restoring our home world back to normal. Has everything since cata happened in like 3 months? If you’re going to change the old world then you need to keep it updated, but instead we go to a new dimension/world every expansion.
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My whole experience on forums is RP
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Me. I visit the city a lot…
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My first level 60 was a NE Druid. The amount of time I spent exploring Teldrassil I wouldn’t even want to guess. I loved that zone. As much as I love Ironforge, I think Darnassus is beautiful. I didn’t even mind the Barrow Den and trying to get the relics of Wakening. It’s very sad that “canonically” the zone is gone. I know I can “go back in time” to see it as it was, but it doesn’t feel the same.
I feel your sense of loss.
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I miss both as both cities were truly iconic for me. I’m still burnt that we traded UC for that stupid pyramid.
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I loved Teldrassil. The fact that it’s all been pretty much glossed over is annoying to me as well.
I wasn’t a fan of uc or Sylvanas, but I feel bad for friends who did like them and who hate how the story has gone.
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For me, the WoW story ended with Cataclysm. I felt that defeating Deathwing and the dragon aspects losing their power, stating that this is now the Age of Mortals… that had some good finality to it.
We had finally defeated all of our outstanding Warcraft Universe enemies… Illidan, the Lich King, and Deathwing.
I think that’s partly why my interest in WoW just… fizzled out.
I’ll admit that BFA and Shadowlands has brought that interest back to me. I did not expect Shadowlands to be very good, and it kind of took me by surprise by just how good it actually was.
Dorking around on TBC Classic, it is obviously no longer the same game. I do miss that feel of being in a huge world, though.
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Welcome to life as a Garrosh Hellscream fan, my friend. lol
In Vanilla Orgrimmar, I hazily remember this big random hill with nothing on it besides toons outside the Valley of Strength Auction House. It just feels like there was red mud everywhere. It could have just been the poor graphics before the Cata update, though.
I hazily remember there being these huge Lego-like walls (prior to the Cata update) around the roads going through Stormwind, and of course (what is now) the side entrance to the Auction House in the Market District was the only entrance. Some of the auctioneers were standing on crates rather than the stage.
This is honestly by and large the biggest issue.
Blizzard has an obsession with the factions; for years, especially at BlizzCon, they used it as a way to hype people up about their respective sides. Does everyone here remember the “It Matters” commercial campaign they did for BfA that was super cringeworthy?
The idea of removing the faction wall has grown in popularity since MoP, so I honestly stand by the belief Blizzard thought Teldrassil would reignite the “LOK’TAR OGAR” in the Horde and incite rage in the Alliance. And perhaps it did, for a few people. But ultimately I think the way they handled it ended up disconnecting so many more from the game. I do wonder if, for as disconnected they often come off is, they honestly believe all Horde players are fire and brimstone and didn’t expect us to dislike the story beats of MoP. Or maybe they thought MoP went so well with Garrosh that they could repeat it.
Honestly, whatever their thoughts, I think they only really managed to disenfranchise a very large portion of the player base. Obviously we don’t have statistics, but it’s a pretty common complaint both in and out of the game that the whole event was just not good. And now that we’re on our way to a redeemed Sylvanas, I’m curious to see if that breaks anyone else away from the game.
Personally I always thought I’d be able to stick it out no matter how bad the story got, but we’re hitting levels of suspension of disbelief and complete disconnection from the image of my character that I’m…honestly wondering what I’ll do when 9.1 reveals its story.
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It was a poorly calculated move.
Losing two signature cities, two of the only balancing points between the halves of Azeroth between the factions, all to trump up Sylvanas of all spent characters…?
Maybe if Sylvanas hadn’t gone full Skeletor she’d be a character worth building on, but that notion died. It died hard, and it died a long time ago.
I never had much use for Teldrassil, even though I did appreciate it, but the Undercity was the only Horde city that wasn’t a horrible disorganized mess. Say what you will about the Scourge, but between UC and Naxxramas, damned if they don’t know how to lay out a city.
Not to mention what an absolute gongshow just the sheer execution was. Emotional tantrums! Intercontinental ballistic catapults! Sylvanas had enough blight to render the Undercity permanently uninhabitable, but… didn’t use that blight to actually defend the city or use it on more than a handful of enemies who had an easy out.
Of course, somehow no one thought to bring anti-air capacities, so the Horde leadership escapes. Then again, this is the same Alliance fighting the Forsaken and their famous ultra-bioweapon without any precautions against said bioweapon…
The whole thing was demented rave at an international convention for clowns. The reasons behind it were dumb, the overarching context was unjustified, the ways both losses played out were profoundly stupid, and what it added to the story and for what characters fails to add up to the value of having both cities.
It was a mistake, a disaster, and a bad choice all around.
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Well, as an Alliance player, yes I miss Darnassus. My worgen even still has a joke referencing the city. Asking Chromie to go back in time to a deserted city and timeline doesn’t feel the same
Could care less about the Undercity. Glad it’s destroyed
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The only good part of MoP with regards to Garrosh was the ending where we worked with Lor’themar and company to overthrow him. It was like being a spy and finally the plot is moving in a direction I agreed with - after 2 long expansions of Garrosh having the unearned mantle of Warchief; ironically enough, either of Garrosh’s successors really earned the Warchief mantle either.
Most of us have long departed. Cata was when the writing got really cringe - “Go’el! Go’el! Go’el! …”; hell that speech given when someone turns in that Uldar raid boss quest that used to get spammed in Dalaran all the time was pretty cringe too, so you can say it started late Wrath.
WoD was when it ended for good for me. LOL time travel in an alternate universe, holy jump the shark. It’s almost like they couldn’t decide if they wanted an alt universe (then nothing really matters) or time travel (continuity/causation problems) and won’t commit to either … so did both in the end, try to muddy the waters and hope we don’t notice.
Since then my subs with WoW can be described as fleeting. A few months here and there, on and off. Right now is my 1st month after about a 1-2 year absence - I bailed on BFA pretty early.
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