Wow classic Economy Abuse Ban

I would be very careful taking large amount of gold from anything but the auction house.

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If they are banning accounts for gdkp, why don’t they ban GDKP runs, or better yet, why don’t they ban BT farming?

Not all gdkp use 3rd party gold and they do ban bot but ivestigation takes time.

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Since you do not know how everyone got their gold you should stay away from GDKP runs with a passion. No reason to ban them because of this but a good reason to avoid them.

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They are not banning accounts for participating in GDKP’s. Players can get actioned when someone bringing illicit gold to the GDKP, and it gets distributed to others. There are plenty of GDKP runs, where all the gold used has been legitimately gained, and thus, no reason to ban them.

The advice to avoid them is because of the illicit gold, not the idea of a GDKP.

That said, see below…

Same reason as above. Farming an instance is not against the rules. It’s when people use automation to make the farming more efficient.

But if you would like to suggest these two policy changes, you’ll want to post in the appropriate forum. Dungeons, Raids, & Scenarios would be good, as would General. You can also use the in-game Suggestion feature.

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It is not our fault that others use ways to obtain illicit gold, that is Blizzard’s problem, because they always ban those who received it but not those who generated it, and that damages the gaming experience, it is not fair that you lose an account 3 years because someone brought dirty gold to a GDKP

They do trace where the gold comes from and alot of those that have suspended or banned because of the gkdp have been getting them overturned thats what apeals are for.

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that’s fine

No one said it’s anyone’s fault. That’s why the appeals process exists.

This is shockingly inaccurate. If a player is 100% innocent, they can be (and usually are) reinstated. The reality is that it’s not a binary “innocent/guilty” choice, which is why it’s done on a case-by-case basis, and also why you’ll see some accounts get fully reinstated and others get commuted to a lesser suspension, but still a suspension. Because there are varying degrees of “innocence”.

As for the generating, that is a completely separate issue. These are compromised accounts, and while they certainly do ban the accounts in the ban wave (the registered owner can appeal, if there’s evidence of a compromise), the nefarious players simply fire up another compromised account and continue.

No one who is completely 100% innocent has ever lost their account. They may tell you they were innocent (isn’t everyone?), but that doesn’t mean it lines up with what Blizzard has in their logs.

You are free to suggest any change you want, but it is not reviewed in this forum. You need to put it in the appropriate forum. I don’t think much will come from the suggestion, but don’t listen to me. You have every right to suggest it.

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But it is, when you participate in activities where you don’t know who you’re running with. Participating in GDKPs is not required to play this game, it’s something that players do at their own risk. It opens up both sides of the equation to account actions and scams. That’s why it is a completely 100% unsupported mode of gameplay. People have to decide whether they want to be greedy and open themselves to the risk to line their pockets, just as people buying the runs have to open themselves up to the risks of being scammed out of their gold with no recourse.

And before we get into the “well Blizzard could ban these things!!!” - Blizzard could ban plenty of things, but they do try to leave unsupported modes of play open for players because (a) they’re going to do it anyway and (b) it is the player’s decision in how they choose to play the game, despite knowing the risks.

If you don’t want to be at risk due to someone else’s bad behavior? Then know who you’re running with or don’t do it at all. Just like someone blatantly pointed out that “Should have known something was fishy when Shadowmourne went for 1.5 million” - there can be red flags. At the end of the day, the only person’s behavior you can truly vouch for is your own. You put yourself in the position to receive tainted gold by playing the game in this manner.

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I too received a 2 week suspension from what can only be the result of a GDKP run as 2 other guildmates who were in that same GDKP also received suspension & account closure. I appealed my suspension and provided screenshot of my transactions through blizzard showing where I have spent hundreds of dollars over the course of the last 2-3 months buying wow tokens FROM blizzard for my means of obtaining extra gold in game and was responded to with a generic response of your suspension will not be reversed blah blah. I have never and would never buy gold from anyone and jeopardize my account of 15+ years yet here I sit with a suspended account!

My issue with this is like others have said I cannot control where or how other people get their gold, giving me a suspension because gold I received thru a GDKP run was obtained by another person in an illicit way should not be my problem. This is no different than for example, if someone put a stack of potions in the AH for a normal price nothing unusual and the person who purchased them just so happens to be someone that obtained their gold thru illicit means well then technically the seller of those potions now possesses that “illegally” obtained gold, so do they too get an account suspension/ban?

I would be willing to bet the number of players in game who by no means of their own currently or at some point have possessed gold that was obtained thru illicit means by another person is an astronomical number, it just doesnt seem right to me.

The only thing you can do is appeal the suspension, posting here does nothing. We are not even allowed to discuss the particulars of a suspension.

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The thing is that you made that choice to participate in an unsupported mode of play. You put yourself at risk. While you may not be so unscrupulous, you cannot say that others follow your lead in that regard. GDKP runs are risky for everyone involved. Period.

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In the future stay away from GDKP runs! That is my advice!

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Your case isn’t like the others in this thread, Totemboy - why you received 2 weeks instead of longer - or a ban.

This has been reviewed, and I see you have another appeal open.

Given what I can see here, this is unlikely to be reversed.

Not quite the same when the source of the gold IS the illicit source. I’m not saying that you necessarily knew - but as others have mentioned, you want to be VERY careful who you deal with in terms of receiving gold.

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